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bespoke radio for the masses headline

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edition july 8 1947

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the army air force's has announced that

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a flying disc has been found and is now

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in the possession of the army

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if the game is rigged change the game

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game changer

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i occasionally think how quickly

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our differences worldwide

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if we were facing an alien threat from

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church on the game changer radio

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network and kgra the global radio

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i need your help to get to the year

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you're listening to fate to flag with

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good evening

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doing today's wednesday december 15 2021

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349 days into the new year

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only 16 days left that's it

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we are live from a bunker somewhere in

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a total undisclosed location but it is

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listening all around the world all

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across the united states

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hither and tether to and fro back and

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this is fade to black for kjcr the game

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changer and on x networks i am your host

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jimmy church

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what is cracking everybody how you doing

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i just got a last-minute text coming in

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right after the show started

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i'm waiting for the response to come

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back on this text

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and it's from

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an og fate or not and i need the answer

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to my question michelle

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michelle will you

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answer my text please

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i'm happy to honor the text

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but i need you to answer my question and

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why the delay now for two minutes

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i i i answered it right away in fact i

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michelle

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come on michelle let's go let's go quit

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busy night tonight

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because we have very special guest rudy

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sarzo is with us for the first time and

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christmas season and all of that so rudy

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and uh i mean we have special guests

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that's uh that's tomorrow night follow

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good all right follow me on twitter

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and head over to the sandbox hashtag f2b

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the three dots i see three dots coming

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everybody wants their own crystal skull

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michelle you you stop this show

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you stop the show tonight

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question mark seriously question mark

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very limited sphere of people have

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everybody wants their own crystal skull

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you do i do

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i i can't help myself and uh you need to

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go to einstein the crystalskull.com

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right now go and check out what carolyn

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ford has got in store for you

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go and look through

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her presentation is amazing on that

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website going connect i connected today

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with uh

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man that was just beautiful black

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brazilian quartz white quartz with black

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okay the the this one's coming in this

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and uh kaz is probably going to post a

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picture of it here in a second i mean i

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just incredible zen

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all right so head over to einstein the

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crystal skull.com promo code jimmy 10

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off of your order today do follow me on

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uh kaz i want your comment is that the

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most beautiful skull like ever

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termilated quartz skull oh man that is

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25 pounds look at that beautiful

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25 pounds that's that's massive

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beautiful beautiful skull go it's zen go

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look at this skull over at einstein the

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crystal skull.com let me get to the

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by a vote of 89 to 10.

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the senate has passed the national

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defense authorization act otherwise

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for fiscal year 2022. the bill now goes

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to the oval office to be signed into law

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this includes all of those uap

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provisions for a new task force and

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funding for reporting and research

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what does this mean for us in 2022 but

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there it goes it's going to be signed

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off here probably tomorrow

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and this news broke today after over

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three months of explosions and rivers of

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molten rock

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some scientists are speculating that the

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preceding 36 hours of silence

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signifies an end to the eruption that

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absolutely incredible so we shall see

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but they're saying it has been

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silent for almost two days

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the european space agency and russian

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space agency roscosmos exomars trace gas

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announcement earlier today this water

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probes to the ice but okay i i get all

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the biden administration has released

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previously classified documents on the

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assassination of then u.s president john

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f kennedy although they include

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redactions and thousands are still

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the latest collection of release

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kennedy's files is made up of more than

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and can be read at the national archives

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website but thousands more are still

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being held back the documents released

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include redaction similar to the 3 000

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files released back in 2017

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the release of the documents has been

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some of the biggest news and i kind of

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until there was some more conversation i

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i needed some needed some space because

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it was too big and too dramatic because

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last week

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russia started blocking the tor network

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that allows users to remain anonymous

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and access the dark web the country's

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state communications watchdog called

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ross kama's door

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confirmed it has blocked access to the

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tor service the tor network developed

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right here in the united states uses

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encryption to evade surveillance by

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masking a user's internet provider from

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largest audience with over three 300 000

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russia has blocked

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absolutely

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extraordinary big steps okay

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they they you know russ just saying you

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know terrorists are using it

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let them and track what they're doing

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you have the ability to do that okay all

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let's get the show crack and happy

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birthday to today don johnson

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is 72.

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you can go back to miami vice if you

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want that's fine

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i think don has shown all of us since

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then

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a great personality b

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an amazing actor and c

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extremely funny happy birthday

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don johnson drumming great carmine

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apathy today is 75 years old and dave

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clark yes the

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dave clark the dave clark five

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is 82

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and uh my other birthday is gonna wait

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till tomorrow our dead guy's birthday

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today

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is harry ray

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1946 to 1992 died at the age of 45 ray

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was the lead singer for the moments that

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later changed their name to ray goodman

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and brown in 1979

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the moments had a long string of hits

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and it's rey's singing

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that beautiful falsetto elite vocal on

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love on a two-way street

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and look at me i'm in love

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that's ray

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ray goodman and brown had their number

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one hit with a special lady in 1980 also

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with racing and lead vocals

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harry ray suffered a fatal stroke and

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died on october 1st 1992

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at the age of 45. happy birthday harry

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on this day in history

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john paul getty iii the grandson of

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american billionaire jay paul getty

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is found alive near naples in italy five

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months after his kidnapping by an

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italian gang

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getty had initially refused to pay his

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16 year old grandson 17 million dollar

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ransom but finally agreed to cooperate

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after the boy's severed right ear

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was sent to a newspaper in rome

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jay paul getty richest man in the world

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at the time

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coughed up 2.7 million dollars

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he said that's all he had

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fader fact

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all right

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this is a good one

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fader fact

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the big

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four

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artificial sweeteners saccharin

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cyclamate aspartame and sucralose were

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all discovered after scientists

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accidentally tasted the chemicals

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that's right

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saccharin was discovered all the way

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back in 1879

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cyclamate otherwise known as sweet and

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low was discovered in 1937

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aspartame otherwise known as nutrasweet

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was found in

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1965 and sucralose otherwise known as

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splenda

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was discovered by accident

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in 1976

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and that

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is your fader fact tonight very special

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guest rudy sarzo is here for the first

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time

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and tomorrow night is our eighth

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anniversary and it falls on a fader

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night

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it's our eighth anniversary special

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event so i'll see everybody tomorrow

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night i'm gonna squeeze some ama in

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we'll do that we'll take phone calls

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we're gonna hang out we're gonna have

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fun okay all right all of that tomorrow

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night on thursday right now

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i need to hit this

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why is it so good

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i mean

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i know where the beans come from

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you know this is an off-the-shelf

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mass-produced stuff

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no no secret location

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from an island somewhere in the south

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pacific high in the mountains i'm not

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kidding that's where those beans come

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from

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that's right

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okay

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where am i at now where am i at i'm

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gonna hit this coffee again that's where

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rivermoonwellness.com

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the secret tech stozo line goes off

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tonight

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i panic i panicked

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like who who who is going to text me a

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minute after the show on that line

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i mean

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rivermoonwellness.com

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promo code f2b blend okay

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links are over at jimmychurchradio.com

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what is it

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i've been waiting to talk about this for

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a long time

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about creative artists

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and the paranormal

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consciousness

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and ufos

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what is it

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i would make a bet right now

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i mean i would go all in

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with this

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i mean i i i'll put the flame guitar

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on the table

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with this

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i bet

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that 100

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of all of the creative people on this

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planet that's fine arts acting music

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writers

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the whole shebang

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all of them

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believe in the paranormal and ufos

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now

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and it may be the most important point

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is that in order to get to a level of

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unbroken creativity that stream of

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consciousness to get into the zone

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that very special place

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that

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you have to be there

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where it is

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totally

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an out-of-body experience

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to achieve pure

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streaming

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creativity

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that's right

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00:24:06,710 --> 00:24:04,390
the zone

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once you have experienced this and you

435
00:24:12,149 --> 00:24:08,640
know what it's like

436
00:24:16,470 --> 00:24:12,159
to get there to be there

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and how to try and repeat it

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00:24:21,029 --> 00:24:18,640
you find out at that time that

439
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that the mind is

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very special

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00:24:27,350 --> 00:24:25,520
and you also find out very quickly that

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the world

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00:24:35,750 --> 00:24:33,750
you find that out that that there is

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00:24:37,990 --> 00:24:35,760
much more to life

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00:24:39,750 --> 00:24:38,000
in the universe

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that's what happens

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00:24:44,950 --> 00:24:42,240
when you're a creative person

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00:24:46,630 --> 00:24:44,960
you know i've i've i've been there

449
00:24:48,230 --> 00:24:46,640
i've gone to the mountain top i've gone

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into the zone

451
00:24:52,390 --> 00:24:50,320
and when you are there and you come out

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00:24:54,470 --> 00:24:52,400
of it i don't know

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00:24:56,230 --> 00:24:54,480
what it's like to meditate for two three

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four five hours

455
00:24:59,990 --> 00:24:57,840
but it's got to be very close because

456
00:25:03,990 --> 00:25:00,000
when you come out of the other side you

457
00:25:06,710 --> 00:25:04,000
realize you were in a different place

458
00:25:08,310 --> 00:25:06,720
it's it's it's really that simple

459
00:25:11,110 --> 00:25:08,320
and uh

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00:25:13,190 --> 00:25:11,120
you know i have done

461
00:25:14,789 --> 00:25:13,200
so many hours in the studio sitting

462
00:25:16,950 --> 00:25:14,799
there with singers and bass players and

463
00:25:18,390 --> 00:25:16,960
drummers and guitar players and and

464
00:25:20,470 --> 00:25:18,400
cutting tracks

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00:25:24,710 --> 00:25:20,480
and you know you do things over and over

466
00:25:31,190 --> 00:25:26,710
you're in the zone

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00:25:32,950 --> 00:25:31,200
musicians go there they come out the

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00:25:34,870 --> 00:25:32,960
other side

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00:25:36,390 --> 00:25:34,880
and uh

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00:25:39,830 --> 00:25:36,400
was that good

471
00:25:42,549 --> 00:25:39,840
because they don't they don't even know

472
00:25:44,230 --> 00:25:42,559
they they went to that place can i hear

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it back

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00:25:50,149 --> 00:25:45,279
and

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00:25:50,159 --> 00:25:52,789
now

476
00:25:59,669 --> 00:25:54,830
there's always a but

477
00:26:02,470 --> 00:25:59,679
but that masters end zone

478
00:26:04,470 --> 00:26:02,480
is only for those who have spent years

479
00:26:08,310 --> 00:26:04,480
of training and practice to get to the

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00:26:10,390 --> 00:26:08,320
levels of genuine artistry

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00:26:12,789 --> 00:26:10,400
i mean you are practicing

482
00:26:14,470 --> 00:26:12,799
you are painting you are writing

483
00:26:16,149 --> 00:26:14,480
all day

484
00:26:18,310 --> 00:26:16,159
all of your life

485
00:26:19,510 --> 00:26:18,320
and you're you're you're going there and

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00:26:21,029 --> 00:26:19,520
you're going there and you're going

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00:26:24,070 --> 00:26:21,039
there and you're perfecting and you're

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00:26:25,269 --> 00:26:24,080
practicing and you're repeating

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00:26:27,669 --> 00:26:25,279
and and

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and then you you find a way to get into

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that zone

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00:26:35,590 --> 00:26:31,520
and then you're able to repeat it

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00:26:41,909 --> 00:26:39,669
so let's get to point number two

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00:26:44,950 --> 00:26:41,919
and that is this

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00:26:47,909 --> 00:26:44,960
for those who choose a career in the

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00:26:51,029 --> 00:26:49,750
just that right there is a special

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00:26:53,510 --> 00:26:51,039
individual

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00:26:56,230 --> 00:26:53,520
you can stop right there that's a

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special person

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00:27:02,310 --> 00:27:00,000
this person that decides that is already

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00:27:04,390 --> 00:27:02,320
going against the system fighting the

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00:27:06,549 --> 00:27:04,400
man that's right

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00:27:09,269 --> 00:27:06,559
you are fighting the man when you

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00:27:11,990 --> 00:27:09,279
you're drawing in your notebooks in the

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00:27:13,590 --> 00:27:12,000
fourth grade instead of paying attention

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00:27:14,789 --> 00:27:13,600
to math class

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00:27:19,510 --> 00:27:14,799
that's right

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00:27:23,590 --> 00:27:21,350
an open mind to the stuff outside of

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00:27:26,710 --> 00:27:23,600
what we are taught in the real world has

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00:27:29,590 --> 00:27:26,720
been initiated and engaged

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00:27:31,990 --> 00:27:29,600
the switch cover has been lifted

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00:27:33,750 --> 00:27:32,000
and the toggle flipped

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00:27:36,470 --> 00:27:33,760
all systems go

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00:27:38,710 --> 00:27:36,480
that's a special individual

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00:27:41,430 --> 00:27:38,720
and some of you are that individual and

516
00:27:45,269 --> 00:27:41,440
you know exactly what i'm talking about

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00:27:46,950 --> 00:27:45,279
so yeah by the time you are all grown up

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00:27:50,149 --> 00:27:46,960
you know you're painting or you're

519
00:27:52,549 --> 00:27:50,159
writing for a living

520
00:27:54,549 --> 00:27:52,559
and you start to master your craft

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00:27:56,950 --> 00:27:54,559
whatever it is

522
00:27:58,389 --> 00:27:56,960
you have already spent a life of

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00:28:00,070 --> 00:27:58,399
exploring

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00:28:02,870 --> 00:28:00,080
the unexplained

525
00:28:06,389 --> 00:28:02,880
and all of it

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00:28:08,310 --> 00:28:06,399
you know and and and this brings me to

527
00:28:10,870 --> 00:28:08,320
tonight's guest

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00:28:13,269 --> 00:28:10,880
rudy sarzo

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00:28:16,389 --> 00:28:13,279
rudy's a very special guy

530
00:28:17,669 --> 00:28:16,399
because rudy has truly spent his entire

531
00:28:21,110 --> 00:28:17,679
life

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00:28:23,269 --> 00:28:21,120
of trying to master the bass guitar and

533
00:28:25,430 --> 00:28:23,279
other creative avenues as well

534
00:28:27,029 --> 00:28:25,440
really good at art really good at the

535
00:28:29,190 --> 00:28:27,039
digital medium

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00:28:32,630 --> 00:28:29,200
really good at animation

537
00:28:34,149 --> 00:28:32,640
he's very creative

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00:28:35,909 --> 00:28:34,159
but here's the deal

539
00:28:38,710 --> 00:28:35,919
with rudy

540
00:28:41,269 --> 00:28:38,720
because when you have written

541
00:28:44,549 --> 00:28:41,279
you have played you have recorded and

542
00:28:47,029 --> 00:28:44,559
performed at the highest levels with the

543
00:28:49,669 --> 00:28:47,039
absolute best musicians on the planet

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00:28:51,190 --> 00:28:49,679
for 50 years

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00:28:55,029 --> 00:28:51,200
your mind

546
00:28:58,230 --> 00:28:55,039
has gone to places that very few have

547
00:29:02,870 --> 00:28:59,350
although

548
00:29:05,750 --> 00:29:02,880
i know rudy pretty well and i do

549
00:29:07,510 --> 00:29:05,760
we have uh been pretty close for uh 30

550
00:29:10,950 --> 00:29:07,520
years maybe longer

551
00:29:12,710 --> 00:29:10,960
but we have never discussed these things

552
00:29:14,950 --> 00:29:12,720
never have

553
00:29:17,590 --> 00:29:14,960
uh we're always working we're always

554
00:29:18,950 --> 00:29:17,600
busy we're always focused

555
00:29:21,430 --> 00:29:18,960
and it's not like i turn the route and

556
00:29:26,950 --> 00:29:24,470
how's your consciousness streaming today

557
00:29:29,750 --> 00:29:26,960
are you in the zone no

558
00:29:31,269 --> 00:29:29,760
no we're busy we're working

559
00:29:32,950 --> 00:29:31,279
but tonight

560
00:29:34,710 --> 00:29:32,960
is my chance

561
00:29:37,350 --> 00:29:34,720
along with all of you

562
00:29:40,310 --> 00:29:37,360
to find out what he has learned not only

563
00:29:42,470 --> 00:29:40,320
about himself and the world around us

564
00:29:43,750 --> 00:29:42,480
but what he has learned and what he can

565
00:29:46,070 --> 00:29:43,760
share

566
00:29:49,430 --> 00:29:46,080
that will help make this world a better

567
00:29:51,669 --> 00:29:49,440
place it's a very unique experience for

568
00:29:55,269 --> 00:29:51,679
all of you tonight to sit down with

569
00:29:56,870 --> 00:29:55,279
somebody of uh rudy's artistic caliber

570
00:29:59,269 --> 00:29:56,880
and and and

571
00:30:01,750 --> 00:29:59,279
and get to enjoy a show it's gonna be an

572
00:30:03,430 --> 00:30:01,760
open conversation and again

573
00:30:04,549 --> 00:30:03,440
we've known each other for a very long

574
00:30:07,350 --> 00:30:04,559
time

575
00:30:08,950 --> 00:30:07,360
there's a very uh strong level of trust

576
00:30:11,190 --> 00:30:08,960
uh between us

577
00:30:13,990 --> 00:30:11,200
and so that's the conversation you're

578
00:30:16,310 --> 00:30:14,000
gonna hear tonight uh between two old

579
00:30:18,389 --> 00:30:16,320
friends that go back

580
00:30:20,549 --> 00:30:18,399
to the old days

581
00:30:22,950 --> 00:30:20,559
this is fade to black i am your host

582
00:30:25,190 --> 00:30:22,960
jimmy church and uh it's going to be a

583
00:30:27,029 --> 00:30:25,200
great night tonight and also i want to

584
00:30:28,549 --> 00:30:27,039
remind everybody it's a special week it

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is the holidays

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and uh after tonight's show we're going

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to get ready for tomorrow which is our

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eighth anniversary

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all right anniversary very special my

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tomorrow night and i look forward to

591
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hanging out with all of you because it's

592
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on a fader night and tonight was

593
00:30:47,750 --> 00:30:45,200
supposed to be ama we rescheduled that

594
00:30:50,789 --> 00:30:47,760
uh for rudy tonight

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and i i i got the emails about it what

596
00:30:54,630 --> 00:30:53,039
about ama what about ama so we'll

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squeeze some of that in tomorrow night

598
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okay all right tomorrow we celebrate

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tonight we talked to rudy

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is not your father's radio show

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on the game changer radio network

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hi this is rob reiner from anvil and

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[Music]

692
00:35:54,310 --> 00:35:52,480
all right welcome back faded black i'm

693
00:35:57,030 --> 00:35:54,320
your host jimmy church tonight rudy

694
00:35:59,910 --> 00:35:57,040
sarzo is with us

695
00:36:01,829 --> 00:35:59,920
tomorrow night is our eighth anniversary

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00:36:04,550 --> 00:36:01,839
special event

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unbelievable almost 2 000 shows in the

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can

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so that's going down tomorrow night

700
00:36:10,790 --> 00:36:09,440
hanging out with all of you uh crazy

701
00:36:12,310 --> 00:36:10,800
fader knots it's going to be a great

702
00:36:14,630 --> 00:36:12,320
night it's gonna be a fun night and uh

703
00:36:16,710 --> 00:36:14,640
come and celebrate with us but tonight

704
00:36:18,230 --> 00:36:16,720
it's all about rudy he's joining us for

705
00:36:20,630 --> 00:36:18,240
the first time

706
00:36:22,470 --> 00:36:20,640
and tonight i'm going to attempt to talk

707
00:36:24,150 --> 00:36:22,480
some music but i have the feeling we're

708
00:36:26,790 --> 00:36:24,160
going to jump into everything from

709
00:36:29,349 --> 00:36:26,800
consciousness to physics

710
00:36:31,030 --> 00:36:29,359
you know all with uh the greatest rock

711
00:36:33,670 --> 00:36:31,040
and roll bass player on planet earth

712
00:36:35,510 --> 00:36:33,680
that's going down tonight uh rudy was he

713
00:36:38,470 --> 00:36:35,520
was a member of ozzy osbourne's band

714
00:36:40,230 --> 00:36:38,480
from 1981 to 1982 tour of the world in

715
00:36:41,349 --> 00:36:40,240
support of blizzard of oz and diary of a

716
00:36:43,270 --> 00:36:41,359
man man

717
00:36:46,470 --> 00:36:43,280
his base plane can be heard on ozzy's

718
00:36:48,230 --> 00:36:46,480
multi-million selling ld uh uh

719
00:36:50,470 --> 00:36:48,240
lpcd

720
00:36:52,069 --> 00:36:50,480
tribute and speak of the devil

721
00:36:55,589 --> 00:36:52,079
and he was a member of quiet riot from

722
00:36:57,349 --> 00:36:55,599
1982 to 1985 recorded of course mental

723
00:36:58,790 --> 00:36:57,359
health the very first heavy metal album

724
00:36:59,750 --> 00:36:58,800
to reach number one on the billboard

725
00:37:01,190 --> 00:36:59,760
charts

726
00:37:02,950 --> 00:37:01,200
rudy

727
00:37:06,470 --> 00:37:02,960
gotta take a breath was voted number one

728
00:37:09,430 --> 00:37:06,480
basis in circus magazine in 1983 as a

729
00:37:11,670 --> 00:37:09,440
member of white snake from 87 in 1994 he

730
00:37:14,230 --> 00:37:11,680
recorded many albums but including the

731
00:37:17,349 --> 00:37:14,240
multi-platinum slip of the tongue

732
00:37:18,470 --> 00:37:17,359
2004 he joined ingva malmsteen's rising

733
00:37:21,750 --> 00:37:18,480
force

734
00:37:23,589 --> 00:37:21,760
for that 30 city u.s tour in 2004 became

735
00:37:25,349 --> 00:37:23,599
a member of dio

736
00:37:28,630 --> 00:37:25,359
and remained with the band until

737
00:37:30,870 --> 00:37:28,640
ronnie's passing in 2010. in addition

738
00:37:32,790 --> 00:37:30,880
when he wasn't with uh

739
00:37:35,990 --> 00:37:32,800
dl playing video he toured the world

740
00:37:36,750 --> 00:37:36,000
with blue oyster cult in 2012 from 2013

741
00:37:38,470 --> 00:37:36,760
through

742
00:37:40,069 --> 00:37:38,480
2014

743
00:37:42,550 --> 00:37:40,079
rudy was a recording and touring member

744
00:37:45,589 --> 00:37:42,560
of jeff tate's queens reich

745
00:37:46,630 --> 00:37:45,599
from 2017 to 2021 a member of the guess

746
00:37:49,910 --> 00:37:46,640
who

747
00:37:51,670 --> 00:37:49,920
in 2005 he published the kindle number

748
00:37:53,670 --> 00:37:51,680
one best-selling book off the rails

749
00:37:56,710 --> 00:37:53,680
aboard the crazy train with the blizzard

750
00:37:58,790 --> 00:37:56,720
of oz and today he's back with quiet

751
00:38:02,550 --> 00:37:58,800
riot and of course hosting his own radio

752
00:38:05,190 --> 00:38:02,560
show and podcast six degrees of sarzo on

753
00:38:07,829 --> 00:38:05,200
monsters of rock radio i'm now out of

754
00:38:08,790 --> 00:38:07,839
breath rudy welcome my friend how are

755
00:38:10,020 --> 00:38:08,800
you

756
00:38:11,750 --> 00:38:10,030
i'm exhausted

757
00:38:13,750 --> 00:38:11,760
[Laughter]

758
00:38:15,910 --> 00:38:13,760
and uh

759
00:38:19,750 --> 00:38:15,920
just listening to uh to everything that

760
00:38:21,990 --> 00:38:19,760
you know the uh i guess

761
00:38:23,829 --> 00:38:22,000
you know it was pretty much correct

762
00:38:27,670 --> 00:38:23,839
it's all a blur though it's got to be a

763
00:38:29,589 --> 00:38:27,680
blur and rudy yeah before we get started

764
00:38:31,430 --> 00:38:29,599
you get i can't believe i'm saying this

765
00:38:32,790 --> 00:38:31,440
to you you get the first time guest

766
00:38:34,870 --> 00:38:32,800
disclaimer

767
00:38:36,390 --> 00:38:34,880
okay which is this

768
00:38:38,230 --> 00:38:36,400
rudy it's just you and i sitting on my

769
00:38:40,310 --> 00:38:38,240
couch having a conversation as friends

770
00:38:41,829 --> 00:38:40,320
and yeah where that conversation

771
00:38:43,510 --> 00:38:41,839
starts it starts where it ends it ends

772
00:38:44,829 --> 00:38:43,520
but we're gonna end his friends there

773
00:38:47,670 --> 00:38:44,839
you go i had to get that it's a

774
00:38:50,150 --> 00:38:47,680
tradition here on the show so welcome

775
00:38:52,790 --> 00:38:50,160
yeah it must it must

776
00:38:55,670 --> 00:38:52,800
it must be a blur i mean there's really

777
00:38:58,310 --> 00:38:55,680
not another way to look at it

778
00:39:00,950 --> 00:38:58,320
and you've always stayed busy and to

779
00:39:02,230 --> 00:39:00,960
stay busy you're always working and then

780
00:39:04,550 --> 00:39:02,240
the next thing you know you turn around

781
00:39:06,230 --> 00:39:04,560
and go wow i did all of that

782
00:39:08,710 --> 00:39:06,240
right

783
00:39:11,430 --> 00:39:08,720
pretty crazy man

784
00:39:14,230 --> 00:39:11,440
uh yeah you know

785
00:39:15,990 --> 00:39:14,240
it's i well first of all jimmy for the

786
00:39:17,589 --> 00:39:16,000
listeners out there we're all friends

787
00:39:19,670 --> 00:39:17,599
and we've had this conversation many

788
00:39:21,190 --> 00:39:19,680
times before but

789
00:39:24,710 --> 00:39:21,200
not like we're gonna have tonight

790
00:39:29,349 --> 00:39:24,720
because now we it's now now it's now yes

791
00:39:31,109 --> 00:39:29,359
then was now then and now it is now now

792
00:39:33,910 --> 00:39:31,119
and in the future we'll have another

793
00:39:34,790 --> 00:39:33,920
conversation we'll be then now but you

794
00:39:37,670 --> 00:39:34,800
know

795
00:39:40,710 --> 00:39:37,680
but as of today right here

796
00:39:43,670 --> 00:39:40,720
uh what day is it today december 15th

797
00:39:44,950 --> 00:39:43,680
december 15 2021

798
00:39:47,270 --> 00:39:44,960
and uh

799
00:39:49,990 --> 00:39:47,280
i'm gonna actually start here this is uh

800
00:39:51,910 --> 00:39:50,000
because we have uh known each other for

801
00:39:55,030 --> 00:39:51,920
for so long i don't even remember how or

802
00:39:56,710 --> 00:39:55,040
when we first met by the way but

803
00:39:58,710 --> 00:39:56,720
um

804
00:40:02,150 --> 00:39:58,720
this is the crazy part

805
00:40:04,150 --> 00:40:02,160
in in your wildest dreams or in mine you

806
00:40:08,150 --> 00:40:04,160
know let's go back 30 years

807
00:40:09,670 --> 00:40:08,160
that you and i in 2021 would both be

808
00:40:12,230 --> 00:40:09,680
radio host

809
00:40:14,390 --> 00:40:12,240
and you a guest on my program

810
00:40:15,990 --> 00:40:14,400
that that was not in the cards for us in

811
00:40:20,230 --> 00:40:16,000
1990

812
00:40:23,510 --> 00:40:20,240
no no but but i i must say that in in

813
00:40:26,230 --> 00:40:23,520
college i was a mass communication major

814
00:40:27,750 --> 00:40:26,240
and i studied radio television and

815
00:40:30,069 --> 00:40:27,760
motion picture producing and directing

816
00:40:33,270 --> 00:40:30,079
mainly because i was in florida at the

817
00:40:37,109 --> 00:40:33,280
time this is 1969 when i entered college

818
00:40:39,589 --> 00:40:37,119
and believe me the the chances of uh of

819
00:40:43,030 --> 00:40:39,599
a rock musician coming out of florida at

820
00:40:45,109 --> 00:40:43,040
that time was like non-existent and you

821
00:40:48,230 --> 00:40:45,119
know being a fan of music

822
00:40:49,829 --> 00:40:48,240
uh rock i wanted to be in the business

823
00:40:51,990 --> 00:40:49,839
you know in the industry so i figured

824
00:40:53,190 --> 00:40:52,000
okay i'm gonna get an education on you

825
00:40:55,910 --> 00:40:53,200
know ready as a matter of fact i was

826
00:40:57,670 --> 00:40:55,920
inducted last year to the hall of fame

827
00:41:02,630 --> 00:40:57,680
of my of my college

828
00:41:05,589 --> 00:41:04,550
because you know your school is like

829
00:41:08,150 --> 00:41:05,599
you're

830
00:41:10,069 --> 00:41:08,160
you know your parents basically your

831
00:41:12,550 --> 00:41:10,079
your escholastic

832
00:41:14,550 --> 00:41:12,560
parenthood you know they teach you they

833
00:41:16,790 --> 00:41:14,560
nurture you they make sure that you pass

834
00:41:18,710 --> 00:41:16,800
the test and all that right and for them

835
00:41:20,069 --> 00:41:18,720
to turn around and say you've done good

836
00:41:22,390 --> 00:41:20,079
we're to put you in the hall of fame

837
00:41:24,069 --> 00:41:22,400
that that means a lot to me you know and

838
00:41:25,750 --> 00:41:24,079
because it's not based on record sales

839
00:41:27,910 --> 00:41:25,760
or anything it's just based on the

840
00:41:30,710 --> 00:41:27,920
overall achievement you know and the

841
00:41:33,270 --> 00:41:30,720
fact that i i was a major you know mass

842
00:41:35,670 --> 00:41:33,280
communication major so i i really

843
00:41:37,950 --> 00:41:35,680
somehow wanted to get into radio but

844
00:41:40,230 --> 00:41:37,960
what kept me in in

845
00:41:42,069 --> 00:41:40,240
1969 i was

846
00:41:44,950 --> 00:41:42,079
i had been in the in the united states

847
00:41:47,589 --> 00:41:44,960
for eight years so my accent was very

848
00:41:49,349 --> 00:41:47,599
heavy heavier than it is now

849
00:41:50,470 --> 00:41:49,359
and uh so

850
00:41:53,990 --> 00:41:50,480
but

851
00:41:55,510 --> 00:41:54,000
i was young and i didn't have that cuban

852
00:41:58,390 --> 00:41:55,520
latin radio

853
00:42:00,950 --> 00:41:58,400
the traditional equals

854
00:42:03,510 --> 00:42:00,960
rolling stones you know like the real

855
00:42:07,430 --> 00:42:03,520
you know yes you know you know you know

856
00:42:10,150 --> 00:42:07,440
like that right okay and then i was too

857
00:42:12,150 --> 00:42:10,160
cuban for fm radio and there was barely

858
00:42:14,870 --> 00:42:12,160
any programming you know back then there

859
00:42:17,910 --> 00:42:14,880
would be like maybe we had fm radio

860
00:42:20,790 --> 00:42:17,920
technology installing our in our in our

861
00:42:23,829 --> 00:42:21,910
but

862
00:42:27,190 --> 00:42:23,839
for you to find a space where you had to

863
00:42:29,030 --> 00:42:27,200
like dial like you know forever yes

864
00:42:32,390 --> 00:42:29,040
there will be like one at each end of

865
00:42:35,190 --> 00:42:32,400
the dial basically so i i i couldn't get

866
00:42:38,790 --> 00:42:35,200
a job in radio in miami you know

867
00:42:40,550 --> 00:42:38,800
so but there's always gigs available for

868
00:42:43,270 --> 00:42:40,560
uh a bass player

869
00:42:45,910 --> 00:42:43,280
oh yeah let me let me ask you this uh

870
00:42:47,750 --> 00:42:45,920
we're gonna get into uh the early parts

871
00:42:50,710 --> 00:42:47,760
of your career now

872
00:42:53,270 --> 00:42:50,720
um although rudy and i have logged in

873
00:42:55,030 --> 00:42:53,280
thousands of hours of conversation most

874
00:42:57,750 --> 00:42:55,040
of it's always been professional because

875
00:42:58,550 --> 00:42:57,760
we're working we're mixing we're doing

876
00:43:00,470 --> 00:42:58,560
and

877
00:43:01,750 --> 00:43:00,480
uh so tonight rudy i'm going to take the

878
00:43:04,069 --> 00:43:01,760
opportunity

879
00:43:06,630 --> 00:43:04,079
to ask you stuff that that you and i

880
00:43:10,470 --> 00:43:06,640
probably have never talked about before

881
00:43:13,670 --> 00:43:10,480
and and the first question is

882
00:43:14,870 --> 00:43:13,680
why is it that bass players can always

883
00:43:18,790 --> 00:43:14,880
get a gig

884
00:43:21,510 --> 00:43:18,800
right why is why is there such a demand

885
00:43:22,309 --> 00:43:21,520
for great bass players

886
00:43:25,670 --> 00:43:22,319
i

887
00:43:28,230 --> 00:43:25,680
that way because

888
00:43:30,230 --> 00:43:28,240
you know i

889
00:43:31,190 --> 00:43:30,240
you know for me to

890
00:43:32,790 --> 00:43:31,200
you know

891
00:43:34,950 --> 00:43:32,800
we have two things that we do as

892
00:43:36,550 --> 00:43:34,960
musicians we either put a band together

893
00:43:38,470 --> 00:43:36,560
from scratch

894
00:43:41,270 --> 00:43:38,480
or we look for a gig

895
00:43:43,270 --> 00:43:41,280
you know and a gig

896
00:43:45,750 --> 00:43:43,280
always has been for me

897
00:43:47,990 --> 00:43:45,760
and kind of like that that point of like

898
00:43:49,670 --> 00:43:48,000
uh it's like a safe house okay i'm gonna

899
00:43:52,150 --> 00:43:49,680
have a gig and meanwhile

900
00:43:53,990 --> 00:43:52,160
i'll i'm gonna look for actually to put

901
00:43:56,630 --> 00:43:54,000
a band together with some with other

902
00:43:58,710 --> 00:43:56,640
people because you know you

903
00:44:00,150 --> 00:43:58,720
there's something about

904
00:44:04,230 --> 00:44:00,160
having your own band where you could be

905
00:44:07,430 --> 00:44:04,240
a thousand percent yourself right me me

906
00:44:09,510 --> 00:44:07,440
it's me right and and the only the only

907
00:44:12,150 --> 00:44:09,520
bands of notoriety

908
00:44:13,910 --> 00:44:12,160
the real notoriety that i've ever been a

909
00:44:15,670 --> 00:44:13,920
founding member of you know a guy signed

910
00:44:18,790 --> 00:44:15,680
to the record deal the guy who was there

911
00:44:21,109 --> 00:44:18,800
from the very beginning uh one would be

912
00:44:23,670 --> 00:44:21,119
the mental health version of quiet riot

913
00:44:26,069 --> 00:44:23,680
i was there from that beginning you know

914
00:44:27,109 --> 00:44:26,079
before it was even renamed again quiet

915
00:44:28,230 --> 00:44:27,119
riot

916
00:44:33,270 --> 00:44:28,240
and

917
00:44:35,829 --> 00:44:33,280
the i was the second bases in in the

918
00:44:38,790 --> 00:44:35,839
randy rhodes version of the band quiet

919
00:44:41,589 --> 00:44:38,800
riot and you know it's it's a band we're

920
00:44:42,470 --> 00:44:41,599
all sharing equally all everything you

921
00:44:43,990 --> 00:44:42,480
know

922
00:44:47,589 --> 00:44:44,000
and

923
00:44:50,630 --> 00:44:47,599
uh

924
00:44:53,030 --> 00:44:50,640
freedom creative freedom that you have

925
00:44:55,190 --> 00:44:53,040
rather than going into a band that's

926
00:44:57,430 --> 00:44:55,200
already formed because there's a legacy

927
00:44:59,190 --> 00:44:57,440
to it musical legacy that's already been

928
00:45:02,150 --> 00:44:59,200
established especially if it's a

929
00:45:05,190 --> 00:45:02,160
successful one you know

930
00:45:06,710 --> 00:45:05,200
now uh this is

931
00:45:25,750 --> 00:45:06,720
d

932
00:45:28,630 --> 00:45:25,760
no no you know i thought about that

933
00:45:31,430 --> 00:45:28,640
today i don't think you and i

934
00:45:33,510 --> 00:45:31,440
i i can't remember did we ever play

935
00:45:36,790 --> 00:45:33,520
together in the studio

936
00:45:38,950 --> 00:45:36,800
no i i do not recall that i don't either

937
00:45:41,670 --> 00:45:38,960
you know what in knight's quiet riot

938
00:45:43,670 --> 00:45:41,680
reunion with the mental health uh

939
00:45:46,470 --> 00:45:43,680
members family members

940
00:45:47,270 --> 00:45:46,480
kevin frankie and myself

941
00:45:49,750 --> 00:45:47,280
and

942
00:45:51,990 --> 00:45:49,760
you came over with a bunch of equipment

943
00:45:55,030 --> 00:45:52,000
and recorded that first show

944
00:45:57,910 --> 00:45:55,040
at the hard rock in las vegas yes right

945
00:45:58,829 --> 00:45:57,920
right yes yes you were there you know

946
00:46:05,030 --> 00:45:58,839
and

947
00:46:07,829 --> 00:46:05,040
that that's 1997. so we probably knew

948
00:46:11,030 --> 00:46:07,839
you know started working together in 96.

949
00:46:12,630 --> 00:46:11,040
yeah 95 when did we move the gear into

950
00:46:14,470 --> 00:46:12,640
your house

951
00:46:16,950 --> 00:46:14,480
oh that would have been uh you know what

952
00:46:19,829 --> 00:46:16,960
i was there in 95. yeah it hadn't been

953
00:46:22,550 --> 00:46:19,839
95 yeah yeah yeah like right in there

954
00:46:24,069 --> 00:46:22,560
yeah um and that was yeah that was you

955
00:46:25,589 --> 00:46:24,079
know what you're right about that it's

956
00:46:26,470 --> 00:46:25,599
it's all a blur but

957
00:46:29,190 --> 00:46:26,480
uh

958
00:46:31,349 --> 00:46:29,200
quiet riot hadn't reformed yet

959
00:46:33,750 --> 00:46:31,359
um that's right that's right that's

960
00:46:37,030 --> 00:46:33,760
right uh i remember kevin coming over to

961
00:46:40,309 --> 00:46:37,040
your house and we had a conversation

962
00:46:43,270 --> 00:46:40,319
and then and then there was uh oh we

963
00:46:44,550 --> 00:46:43,280
went to uh kevin's birthday party at el

964
00:46:47,750 --> 00:46:44,560
coyote

965
00:46:49,109 --> 00:46:47,760
and and things started to move forward

966
00:46:51,270 --> 00:46:49,119
and then the next thing you know the

967
00:46:54,150 --> 00:46:51,280
band uh did that uh

968
00:46:56,630 --> 00:46:54,160
that reunion gig uh oh there was that

969
00:46:59,990 --> 00:46:56,640
other uh

970
00:47:01,910 --> 00:47:00,000
we played at an amusement park

971
00:47:04,230 --> 00:47:01,920
here in southern california do you

972
00:47:06,870 --> 00:47:04,240
remember we went out

973
00:47:08,710 --> 00:47:06,880
uh like in san dimas or something it was

974
00:47:11,510 --> 00:47:08,720
like a weird

975
00:47:14,309 --> 00:47:11,520
egyptian

976
00:47:17,270 --> 00:47:14,319
yes yeah i remember that i remember that

977
00:47:21,910 --> 00:47:19,910
and uh anyway hold on let's not get too

978
00:47:24,230 --> 00:47:21,920
sideways here but

979
00:47:25,829 --> 00:47:24,240
um a bit yeah you know that's 25 years

980
00:47:29,270 --> 00:47:25,839
ago and i don't know where the time has

981
00:47:31,030 --> 00:47:29,280
gone um now here's the next uh

982
00:47:34,950 --> 00:47:31,040
question though

983
00:47:35,990 --> 00:47:34,960
did you feel that you had a sixth sense

984
00:47:39,670 --> 00:47:36,000
into

985
00:47:42,309 --> 00:47:39,680
your next move because you know the

986
00:47:44,470 --> 00:47:42,319
success of ozzie and the choice that you

987
00:47:46,630 --> 00:47:44,480
made there to go on that tour

988
00:47:49,109 --> 00:47:46,640
after that the choice of going back to

989
00:47:51,270 --> 00:47:49,119
quiet riot and and the huge success that

990
00:47:52,710 --> 00:47:51,280
was and then right after that you know

991
00:47:55,430 --> 00:47:52,720
white snake

992
00:47:57,670 --> 00:47:55,440
uh that you you you won the lottery like

993
00:48:01,349 --> 00:47:57,680
three times in a row did you have a

994
00:48:02,230 --> 00:48:01,359
sixth sense with with your choices

995
00:48:09,510 --> 00:48:02,240
no

996
00:48:12,950 --> 00:48:09,520
leave it up to

997
00:48:15,750 --> 00:48:12,960
uh consciousness consciousness being

998
00:48:18,150 --> 00:48:15,760
uh for example me playing in quiet ride

999
00:48:20,630 --> 00:48:18,160
with randy rose was the very first band

1000
00:48:22,870 --> 00:48:20,640
that i experienced collective

1001
00:48:25,109 --> 00:48:22,880
consciousness in a band

1002
00:48:26,470 --> 00:48:25,119
to the point that we all we thought

1003
00:48:28,710 --> 00:48:26,480
about was

1004
00:48:31,430 --> 00:48:28,720
how we're going to get a record deal

1005
00:48:34,150 --> 00:48:31,440
we got to go get a record deal and we

1006
00:48:36,309 --> 00:48:34,160
thought about the music that we created

1007
00:48:38,790 --> 00:48:36,319
to please the record companies

1008
00:48:42,069 --> 00:48:38,800
and the fan base and how to build the

1009
00:48:44,790 --> 00:48:42,079
fan base you know things like that uh we

1010
00:48:47,510 --> 00:48:44,800
never spoke about religion politics

1011
00:48:49,829 --> 00:48:47,520
anything anything

1012
00:48:51,589 --> 00:48:49,839
all we spoke about was music

1013
00:48:55,270 --> 00:48:51,599
that collective consciousness you know

1014
00:48:57,109 --> 00:48:55,280
and that to me is when you're in a band

1015
00:48:59,990 --> 00:48:57,119
that should be the focus

1016
00:49:03,030 --> 00:49:00,000
if you can find people who are share the

1017
00:49:04,950 --> 00:49:03,040
same collective consciousness as you do

1018
00:49:09,910 --> 00:49:04,960
then

1019
00:49:11,349 --> 00:49:09,920
the right family you found your family

1020
00:49:14,390 --> 00:49:11,359
this is it this is all you've been

1021
00:49:16,470 --> 00:49:14,400
looking for right so when i was playing

1022
00:49:18,630 --> 00:49:16,480
in that version of quiet riot i

1023
00:49:20,069 --> 00:49:18,640
experienced that for the first time

1024
00:49:21,510 --> 00:49:20,079
and then

1025
00:49:23,750 --> 00:49:21,520
randy left

1026
00:49:25,910 --> 00:49:23,760
and i you know i i start i i kept

1027
00:49:27,990 --> 00:49:25,920
playing with uh with kevin and his band

1028
00:49:30,710 --> 00:49:28,000
do bro i was doing other things i was

1029
00:49:33,510 --> 00:49:30,720
living with kevin so you know it kept

1030
00:49:34,309 --> 00:49:33,520
that consciousness alive you know

1031
00:49:36,549 --> 00:49:34,319
uh

1032
00:49:37,589 --> 00:49:36,559
then i joined aussie and i was back with

1033
00:49:39,750 --> 00:49:37,599
randy

1034
00:49:41,910 --> 00:49:39,760
you know part of my family

1035
00:49:42,870 --> 00:49:41,920
you know i mean if you look at that any

1036
00:49:44,390 --> 00:49:42,880
you know

1037
00:49:46,309 --> 00:49:44,400
in those days

1038
00:49:49,750 --> 00:49:46,319
randy and me on stage that was half a

1039
00:49:51,349 --> 00:49:49,760
quiet riot on stage with ozzie

1040
00:49:54,630 --> 00:49:51,359
let me let me ask you about that

1041
00:49:56,150 --> 00:49:54,640
transition because i find it a a very

1042
00:50:00,069 --> 00:49:56,160
interesting one

1043
00:50:02,390 --> 00:50:00,079
because that version of quiet riot was

1044
00:50:05,510 --> 00:50:02,400
definitely glam

1045
00:50:08,710 --> 00:50:05,520
was pop oriented no doubt about it the

1046
00:50:11,430 --> 00:50:08,720
songwriting was was right there was very

1047
00:50:13,109 --> 00:50:11,440
focused in that and you guys had a huge

1048
00:50:15,910 --> 00:50:13,119
following in la

1049
00:50:18,309 --> 00:50:15,920
and randy had his reputation right the

1050
00:50:20,309 --> 00:50:18,319
bow tie the way that he dressed uh the

1051
00:50:22,950 --> 00:50:20,319
way that he played and and you and

1052
00:50:25,990 --> 00:50:22,960
everybody else and then he goes off to

1053
00:50:28,390 --> 00:50:26,000
england and it's like he found himself

1054
00:50:30,309 --> 00:50:28,400
and went to another level of a different

1055
00:50:33,430 --> 00:50:30,319
style of songwriting

1056
00:50:35,349 --> 00:50:33,440
you go over to england and and

1057
00:50:36,309 --> 00:50:35,359
did you even think randy was the same

1058
00:50:38,390 --> 00:50:36,319
person

1059
00:50:40,309 --> 00:50:38,400
right i mean because it was a totally

1060
00:50:43,270 --> 00:50:40,319
different way to approach the guitar and

1061
00:50:47,190 --> 00:50:43,280
music and songwriting yeah yeah that's

1062
00:50:50,630 --> 00:50:47,200
an interesting question uh well

1063
00:50:52,829 --> 00:50:50,640
i used to teach at randy's mom's school

1064
00:50:56,390 --> 00:50:52,839
musonia which is still

1065
00:50:57,750 --> 00:50:56,400
operating in north hollywood yeah

1066
00:51:01,030 --> 00:50:57,760
and

1067
00:51:04,150 --> 00:51:01,040
started hearing a whole different side

1068
00:51:05,750 --> 00:51:04,160
of randy uh playing his classical music

1069
00:51:08,790 --> 00:51:05,760
which he had been playing before he even

1070
00:51:10,549 --> 00:51:08,800
started playing rock and roll

1071
00:51:12,470 --> 00:51:10,559
and he would you know like in between

1072
00:51:14,790 --> 00:51:12,480
lessons he would practice his classical

1073
00:51:17,510 --> 00:51:14,800
guitar and go like wow i never

1074
00:51:19,589 --> 00:51:17,520
you know i never get to hear that

1075
00:51:21,430 --> 00:51:19,599
because quiet rider we we just we

1076
00:51:24,150 --> 00:51:21,440
basically we got together every single

1077
00:51:26,710 --> 00:51:24,160
night we rehearsed the set fro forwards

1078
00:51:27,990 --> 00:51:26,720
backwards and then we worked on

1079
00:51:31,109 --> 00:51:28,000
on uh

1080
00:51:32,790 --> 00:51:31,119
whatever demos of you know new songs

1081
00:51:34,309 --> 00:51:32,800
that we wanted to play for for the

1082
00:51:36,390 --> 00:51:34,319
record companies

1083
00:51:37,750 --> 00:51:36,400
and and that was it

1084
00:51:40,069 --> 00:51:37,760
in the school

1085
00:51:42,630 --> 00:51:40,079
he was more loose he could like in

1086
00:51:44,470 --> 00:51:42,640
between lessons pick up the uh the

1087
00:51:45,670 --> 00:51:44,480
classical and practice his classical

1088
00:51:47,990 --> 00:51:45,680
guitar

1089
00:51:51,109 --> 00:51:48,000
and not that he actually got to play

1090
00:51:54,150 --> 00:51:51,119
classical inquiry riot of course not

1091
00:51:55,910 --> 00:51:54,160
because that wasn't what we

1092
00:51:58,390 --> 00:51:55,920
felt that the record companies were

1093
00:52:01,910 --> 00:51:58,400
looking for you know music-wise

1094
00:52:03,589 --> 00:52:01,920
style-wise so when he joined aussie

1095
00:52:05,589 --> 00:52:03,599
he asked us so

1096
00:52:07,430 --> 00:52:05,599
what do you want me to bring you know as

1097
00:52:09,829 --> 00:52:07,440
far as composition what direction do you

1098
00:52:11,190 --> 00:52:09,839
want to go and ozzie said just just be

1099
00:52:13,430 --> 00:52:11,200
yourself

1100
00:52:15,349 --> 00:52:13,440
and then then that's when he became

1101
00:52:17,510 --> 00:52:15,359
himself and not like it's not like he

1102
00:52:20,390 --> 00:52:17,520
had to find himself it's just that he

1103
00:52:23,109 --> 00:52:20,400
was allowed to become himself for the

1104
00:52:25,829 --> 00:52:23,119
first time in a band you know

1105
00:52:27,589 --> 00:52:25,839
and that was that consciousness that he

1106
00:52:30,230 --> 00:52:27,599
he found that honestly consciousness

1107
00:52:32,390 --> 00:52:30,240
that created that family that randy was

1108
00:52:33,670 --> 00:52:32,400
a major part of as

1109
00:52:36,230 --> 00:52:33,680
a as a com

1110
00:52:38,870 --> 00:52:36,240
you know as a performer and

1111
00:52:41,109 --> 00:52:38,880
and a composer everything his essence

1112
00:52:43,670 --> 00:52:41,119
you know of randy you know i i really

1113
00:52:46,630 --> 00:52:43,680
think he kept ozzie really grounded you

1114
00:52:48,069 --> 00:52:46,640
know he gave ozzie something

1115
00:52:49,430 --> 00:52:48,079
to play off

1116
00:52:51,910 --> 00:52:49,440
yeah for sure

1117
00:52:53,430 --> 00:52:51,920
what was it like for you uh because

1118
00:52:56,309 --> 00:52:53,440
you've been playing with randy for so

1119
00:52:57,430 --> 00:52:56,319
long at this point but to go in and

1120
00:53:00,549 --> 00:52:57,440
suddenly

1121
00:53:03,190 --> 00:53:00,559
randy experiencing this artistic freedom

1122
00:53:04,230 --> 00:53:03,200
right and and how is that for you

1123
00:53:05,910 --> 00:53:04,240
because you guys have been playing

1124
00:53:07,910 --> 00:53:05,920
together for a long time

1125
00:53:10,470 --> 00:53:07,920
how is it for you musically to to

1126
00:53:11,990 --> 00:53:10,480
venture into music that up to that point

1127
00:53:13,510 --> 00:53:12,000
really hadn't been

1128
00:53:15,030 --> 00:53:13,520
written or

1129
00:53:18,470 --> 00:53:15,040
or or done

1130
00:53:20,870 --> 00:53:18,480
it was a very groundbreaking period

1131
00:53:22,630 --> 00:53:20,880
yeah i mean i i understood what what

1132
00:53:24,549 --> 00:53:22,640
randy was doing completely because it

1133
00:53:27,270 --> 00:53:24,559
was uh

1134
00:53:30,069 --> 00:53:27,280
relatable to music that i grew up with

1135
00:53:31,270 --> 00:53:30,079
you know more of the

1136
00:53:33,670 --> 00:53:31,280
uh

1137
00:53:35,750 --> 00:53:33,680
i would say even prague rock

1138
00:53:37,030 --> 00:53:35,760
there's a lot of prague in on that

1139
00:53:38,549 --> 00:53:37,040
record

1140
00:53:41,589 --> 00:53:38,559
also if you're listening to diary of a

1141
00:53:42,470 --> 00:53:41,599
madman the song is very praggy it's very

1142
00:53:44,950 --> 00:53:42,480
important

1143
00:53:46,630 --> 00:53:44,960
you know and all of that right so i i

1144
00:53:48,069 --> 00:53:46,640
grew up with that so it was not really a

1145
00:53:50,710 --> 00:53:48,079
departure

1146
00:53:52,710 --> 00:53:50,720
uh what what see by the time that i

1147
00:53:55,349 --> 00:53:52,720
joined aussie randy had been part of

1148
00:53:57,270 --> 00:53:55,359
that family for about maybe a year and a

1149
00:53:59,190 --> 00:53:57,280
half at least

1150
00:54:00,230 --> 00:53:59,200
you know so he understood he was already

1151
00:54:02,950 --> 00:54:00,240
comfortable

1152
00:54:06,630 --> 00:54:02,960
plus he was one of the founding family

1153
00:54:08,630 --> 00:54:06,640
members of that family you know so uh me

1154
00:54:11,750 --> 00:54:08,640
coming in was kind of like

1155
00:54:13,190 --> 00:54:11,760
you know kind of like moving in and

1156
00:54:19,030 --> 00:54:13,200
and

1157
00:54:22,150 --> 00:54:19,040
i used to unpack my bags on the road

1158
00:54:23,990 --> 00:54:22,160
with ozzy and after two or three times

1159
00:54:26,069 --> 00:54:24,000
that we got kicked out kicked out of the

1160
00:54:27,829 --> 00:54:26,079
hotel in the middle of the night and i

1161
00:54:30,390 --> 00:54:27,839
had it was like

1162
00:54:31,829 --> 00:54:30,400
we gotta go now you know the phone rings

1163
00:54:33,829 --> 00:54:31,839
and at three o'clock in the morning we

1164
00:54:35,750 --> 00:54:33,839
gotta go now come on down to the tour

1165
00:54:38,230 --> 00:54:35,760
bus i learned so you know what's the

1166
00:54:39,990 --> 00:54:38,240
point of unpacking all my suitcases here

1167
00:54:42,470 --> 00:54:40,000
and putting my socks in drawers and

1168
00:54:44,710 --> 00:54:42,480
stuff like that

1169
00:54:47,270 --> 00:54:44,720
so you know these are the things that i

1170
00:54:50,470 --> 00:54:47,280
had to go through to learn how to how to

1171
00:54:53,589 --> 00:54:50,480
be a family member of the aussie family

1172
00:54:55,910 --> 00:54:53,599
you know and to me that was like the

1173
00:54:57,910 --> 00:54:55,920
what randy helped me the most because he

1174
00:54:59,750 --> 00:54:57,920
had been through it already for about a

1175
00:55:02,069 --> 00:54:59,760
year and a half

1176
00:55:03,750 --> 00:55:02,079
now uh there's uh

1177
00:55:07,030 --> 00:55:03,760
when you go back

1178
00:55:09,030 --> 00:55:07,040
and and look at uh the images uh from

1179
00:55:11,190 --> 00:55:09,040
those two years on the road

1180
00:55:12,470 --> 00:55:11,200
you have a constant smile on your face

1181
00:55:14,549 --> 00:55:12,480
on stage

1182
00:55:17,030 --> 00:55:14,559
and and did

1183
00:55:18,309 --> 00:55:17,040
was was that a projected happiness from

1184
00:55:20,150 --> 00:55:18,319
your soul

1185
00:55:24,309 --> 00:55:20,160
i i you know because of what you were

1186
00:55:27,109 --> 00:55:24,319
doing or were you finding your place now

1187
00:55:29,270 --> 00:55:27,119
uh as a musician and and you're in that

1188
00:55:31,030 --> 00:55:29,280
bliss that you couldn't get rid of the

1189
00:55:34,309 --> 00:55:31,040
smile

1190
00:55:36,069 --> 00:55:34,319
i had the best seat in the house

1191
00:55:38,230 --> 00:55:36,079
and i got to watch that paint every

1192
00:55:40,069 --> 00:55:38,240
night

1193
00:55:43,510 --> 00:55:40,079
you know it's like

1194
00:55:45,430 --> 00:55:43,520
it's like when playing with randy

1195
00:55:48,549 --> 00:55:45,440
ozzy and tommy and then later on down

1196
00:55:50,549 --> 00:55:48,559
here becomes the normal

1197
00:55:51,910 --> 00:55:50,559
you're normally going to be smiling all

1198
00:55:53,910 --> 00:55:51,920
the time

1199
00:55:56,230 --> 00:55:53,920
and you haven't and you haven't and you

1200
00:55:57,829 --> 00:55:56,240
haven't stopped smiling since rudy and

1201
00:56:00,230 --> 00:55:57,839
yeah and and

1202
00:56:02,710 --> 00:56:00,240
and here's the deal uh you had a

1203
00:56:04,710 --> 00:56:02,720
birthday a couple of weeks ago

1204
00:56:07,670 --> 00:56:04,720
and uh and i posted it

1205
00:56:09,430 --> 00:56:07,680
yes you did and i posted on the net i

1206
00:56:12,390 --> 00:56:09,440
couldn't help myself

1207
00:56:13,670 --> 00:56:12,400
um first off the number that you are at

1208
00:56:16,549 --> 00:56:13,680
right now

1209
00:56:20,309 --> 00:56:16,559
is is unreal it's great

1210
00:56:22,630 --> 00:56:20,319
but you look amazing and my comment was

1211
00:56:25,589 --> 00:56:22,640
rudy's found the fountain of youth

1212
00:56:28,230 --> 00:56:25,599
and hopefully he's going to share it

1213
00:56:30,069 --> 00:56:28,240
with me and maybe i can take a sip

1214
00:56:34,150 --> 00:56:30,079
have you found the fountain of youth and

1215
00:56:35,990 --> 00:56:34,160
how have you just stayed 21

1216
00:56:38,789 --> 00:56:36,000
i found the fountain of the year but it

1217
00:56:42,150 --> 00:56:38,799
got shut down because of covet so i i

1218
00:56:43,990 --> 00:56:42,160
haven't drank from it since then

1219
00:56:45,990 --> 00:56:44,000
uh which is one thing that i find every

1220
00:56:47,510 --> 00:56:46,000
time i go to a waterfall not that i used

1221
00:56:49,270 --> 00:56:47,520
to drink from water fountain but there's

1222
00:56:50,150 --> 00:56:49,280
just an observation

1223
00:56:51,109 --> 00:56:50,160
they

1224
00:56:52,470 --> 00:56:51,119
it just

1225
00:56:53,829 --> 00:56:52,480
they they put some kind of like a

1226
00:56:54,870 --> 00:56:53,839
plastic

1227
00:57:00,309 --> 00:56:54,880
and

1228
00:57:01,990 --> 00:57:00,319
order

1229
00:57:06,390 --> 00:57:02,000
and i'm looking at it and saying it

1230
00:57:13,109 --> 00:57:11,030
is is is age in the mind

1231
00:57:15,510 --> 00:57:13,119
i mean do you think about it

1232
00:57:17,349 --> 00:57:15,520
no i don't i don't because it's not part

1233
00:57:19,670 --> 00:57:17,359
of my of my book

1234
00:57:21,349 --> 00:57:19,680
see everybody has a story everybody has

1235
00:57:23,670 --> 00:57:21,359
a book you know

1236
00:57:25,109 --> 00:57:23,680
and it's up to us

1237
00:57:27,430 --> 00:57:25,119
to write it in

1238
00:57:29,190 --> 00:57:27,440
what do you want your life the story of

1239
00:57:30,470 --> 00:57:29,200
your life you know

1240
00:57:33,990 --> 00:57:30,480
and

1241
00:57:36,390 --> 00:57:34,000
age is not it's not it's it's not even a

1242
00:57:38,390 --> 00:57:36,400
character in my book it's like

1243
00:57:44,549 --> 00:57:38,400
no

1244
00:57:45,349 --> 00:57:44,559
think about it

1245
00:57:50,069 --> 00:57:45,359
there's

1246
00:57:51,750 --> 00:57:50,079
more interested in

1247
00:57:56,230 --> 00:57:51,760
than than getting old

1248
00:57:59,670 --> 00:57:57,829
i've got nothing i'm going to leave that

1249
00:58:01,750 --> 00:57:59,680
right there

1250
00:58:02,950 --> 00:58:01,760
i'm going to continue all of this when

1251
00:58:03,750 --> 00:58:02,960
we come back

1252
00:58:07,270 --> 00:58:03,760
but

1253
00:58:08,710 --> 00:58:07,280
the the idea of how the mind works and

1254
00:58:12,150 --> 00:58:08,720
consciousness

1255
00:58:13,829 --> 00:58:12,160
um is this uh an intro do you study this

1256
00:58:17,109 --> 00:58:13,839
do you read books

1257
00:58:21,190 --> 00:58:17,119
or is this just accumulated knowledge

1258
00:58:23,430 --> 00:58:21,200
uh it's it's uh accumulated knowledge

1259
00:58:24,950 --> 00:58:23,440
that you get to a point that you become

1260
00:58:27,430 --> 00:58:24,960
enlightened

1261
00:58:29,910 --> 00:58:27,440
by the information that you have

1262
00:58:32,309 --> 00:58:29,920
accumulated all this time and then all

1263
00:58:34,150 --> 00:58:32,319
suddenly you start receiving knowledge

1264
00:58:36,870 --> 00:58:34,160
from within right

1265
00:58:39,109 --> 00:58:36,880
you know it's like it's like this

1266
00:58:40,390 --> 00:58:39,119
the first time you learn three chords

1267
00:58:43,589 --> 00:58:40,400
right

1268
00:58:46,069 --> 00:58:43,599
and then you you if okay you learn the

1269
00:58:48,630 --> 00:58:46,079
three chords but then you go oh there's

1270
00:58:50,470 --> 00:58:48,640
three chords in a in a scale

1271
00:58:52,710 --> 00:58:50,480
whether it's major or minor

1272
00:58:53,910 --> 00:58:52,720
i mean let's say three major chords

1273
00:58:59,510 --> 00:58:53,920
let's say

1274
00:59:01,510 --> 00:58:59,520
f major g major and c major

1275
00:59:03,589 --> 00:59:01,520
and you play them in different in in

1276
00:59:05,990 --> 00:59:03,599
different configurations you don't have

1277
00:59:07,109 --> 00:59:06,000
to go one four five you can go five

1278
00:59:12,150 --> 00:59:07,119
four one

1279
00:59:14,710 --> 00:59:12,160
you start you then you find out about

1280
00:59:17,030 --> 00:59:14,720
the relative minor oh just relative

1281
00:59:20,069 --> 00:59:17,040
minors and you you start mixing them up

1282
00:59:21,910 --> 00:59:20,079
instead of going to the uh to the one

1283
00:59:24,870 --> 00:59:21,920
you might want to go to the two as the

1284
00:59:26,630 --> 00:59:24,880
subs you know or to uh the six as a

1285
00:59:28,710 --> 00:59:26,640
substitute for the one

1286
00:59:29,670 --> 00:59:28,720
and things like that and then all of a

1287
00:59:31,750 --> 00:59:29,680
sudden

1288
00:59:33,430 --> 00:59:31,760
one day you start figuring it out okay

1289
00:59:35,910 --> 00:59:33,440
there's more to this

1290
00:59:37,910 --> 00:59:35,920
and it starts coming from within and you

1291
00:59:39,910 --> 00:59:37,920
start discovering things and making

1292
00:59:41,670 --> 00:59:39,920
happy accidents

1293
00:59:43,589 --> 00:59:41,680
you know what you're playing you find a

1294
00:59:45,670 --> 00:59:43,599
chord that really that you did not hear

1295
00:59:48,630 --> 00:59:45,680
that you're not familiar that as a

1296
00:59:51,349 --> 00:59:48,640
sequence as a cadence that this sounds

1297
00:59:54,150 --> 00:59:51,359
good i like this substituting

1298
00:59:55,510 --> 00:59:54,160
a uh the fourth chord for a minor or a

1299
00:59:57,430 --> 00:59:55,520
dominant

1300
01:00:00,710 --> 00:59:57,440
going back to the one you know things

1301
01:00:02,950 --> 01:00:00,720
like that and so you start to be

1302
01:00:04,549 --> 01:00:02,960
enlightened about how to play an

1303
01:00:07,030 --> 01:00:04,559
instrument where it's the same thing

1304
01:00:09,910 --> 01:00:07,040
with life you become enlightened about

1305
01:00:11,829 --> 01:00:09,920
life as the older you get you and if

1306
01:00:16,230 --> 01:00:11,839
you're really accumulating information

1307
01:00:18,950 --> 01:00:16,240
if you're really looking deep into

1308
01:00:21,510 --> 01:00:18,960
how how as things work

1309
01:00:23,109 --> 01:00:21,520
in relationship to

1310
01:00:26,150 --> 01:00:23,119
look at nature

1311
01:00:29,109 --> 01:00:26,160
look at the order of nature and the fact

1312
01:00:30,870 --> 01:00:29,119
that we human beings have

1313
01:00:32,150 --> 01:00:30,880
have the will

1314
01:00:34,870 --> 01:00:32,160
we have will

1315
01:00:37,750 --> 01:00:34,880
you know we can make it you know

1316
01:00:40,390 --> 01:00:37,760
we can choose to do things right

1317
01:00:42,549 --> 01:00:40,400
and it took me a while

1318
01:00:45,190 --> 01:00:42,559
and um

1319
01:00:46,950 --> 01:00:45,200
until i recently i'm talking about you

1320
01:00:51,109 --> 01:00:46,960
know within a year or so

1321
01:00:52,710 --> 01:00:51,119
realize that we we we have two

1322
01:00:53,990 --> 01:00:52,720
two uh

1323
01:00:57,750 --> 01:00:54,000
options

1324
01:00:59,750 --> 01:00:57,760
we can do whatever we want

1325
01:01:02,470 --> 01:00:59,760
or we can do

1326
01:01:04,069 --> 01:01:02,480
the will of our creator god i'm i'm

1327
01:01:08,789 --> 01:01:04,079
christian i'm old-fashioned i call it

1328
01:01:12,950 --> 01:01:11,750
in books he calls himself i am sure

1329
01:01:14,390 --> 01:01:12,960
which is

1330
01:01:17,030 --> 01:01:14,400
of course

1331
01:01:19,270 --> 01:01:17,040
if you were if you if nobody gave you

1332
01:01:22,870 --> 01:01:19,280
birth means that you were not a baby

1333
01:01:26,309 --> 01:01:24,470
you know so

1334
01:01:27,990 --> 01:01:26,319
it's not like your your your mom call

1335
01:01:30,150 --> 01:01:28,000
you oh

1336
01:01:31,750 --> 01:01:30,160
uh and the baby was the baby's name oh

1337
01:01:34,150 --> 01:01:31,760
baby's name is god

1338
01:01:35,589 --> 01:01:34,160
oh okay that's the baby's name

1339
01:01:38,549 --> 01:01:35,599
you know no

1340
01:01:40,230 --> 01:01:38,559
so i was like i am you know and and and

1341
01:01:43,270 --> 01:01:40,240
we're talking

1342
01:01:46,710 --> 01:01:43,280
you know what when i talk about that you

1343
01:01:50,069 --> 01:01:46,720
know it's it's we're dealing in human

1344
01:01:52,309 --> 01:01:50,079
human uh dimensions of how we perceive

1345
01:01:54,710 --> 01:01:52,319
things around us right right i'm not

1346
01:01:58,230 --> 01:01:54,720
even going into into quantum physics

1347
01:02:01,589 --> 01:01:58,240
which is now is where i tend to

1348
01:02:03,349 --> 01:02:01,599
look at everything around me and within

1349
01:02:04,630 --> 01:02:03,359
me

1350
01:02:06,549 --> 01:02:04,640
everything

1351
01:02:09,029 --> 01:02:06,559
and the reason why i got into quantum

1352
01:02:12,470 --> 01:02:09,039
physics is because during lockdown i

1353
01:02:14,630 --> 01:02:12,480
started to study the relationship of of

1354
01:02:16,870 --> 01:02:14,640
waves and frequencies

1355
01:02:18,309 --> 01:02:16,880
really got is okay i'm going to take

1356
01:02:19,270 --> 01:02:18,319
this time

1357
01:02:20,710 --> 01:02:19,280
to

1358
01:02:23,589 --> 01:02:20,720
learn

1359
01:02:26,710 --> 01:02:23,599
how to not only make better music but to

1360
01:02:29,430 --> 01:02:26,720
make healing music

1361
01:02:31,589 --> 01:02:29,440
healing through frequencies and waves

1362
01:02:33,510 --> 01:02:31,599
and once i started getting into quantum

1363
01:02:37,029 --> 01:02:33,520
physics and learning

1364
01:02:40,309 --> 01:02:37,039
from very very educated smart people

1365
01:02:42,230 --> 01:02:40,319
that we are all waves it's waves on

1366
01:02:45,430 --> 01:02:42,240
particles that's what that's what it

1367
01:02:48,870 --> 01:02:45,440
comes down to you know and but waves is

1368
01:02:51,190 --> 01:02:48,880
the natural form of existence and once

1369
01:02:53,750 --> 01:02:51,200
the wave is observed then it becomes

1370
01:02:55,670 --> 01:02:53,760
particle that's right it's not a tracer

1371
01:02:56,549 --> 01:02:55,680
it's just waves that's right that's

1372
01:02:59,589 --> 01:02:56,559
right

1373
01:03:03,910 --> 01:02:59,599
and you and i you and i we are musicians

1374
01:03:07,430 --> 01:03:05,670
thing which is to

1375
01:03:11,750 --> 01:03:07,440
take matter

1376
01:03:14,069 --> 01:03:11,760
particle and turn it into waves

1377
01:03:16,390 --> 01:03:14,079
no other creature

1378
01:03:18,549 --> 01:03:16,400
animals don't do that animals don't you

1379
01:03:20,710 --> 01:03:18,559
know i mean they they can sing

1380
01:03:22,870 --> 01:03:20,720
and make noises you know with their with

1381
01:03:26,309 --> 01:03:22,880
their throats but they're not making

1382
01:03:28,470 --> 01:03:26,319
sequence of frequencies or tuning

1383
01:03:31,910 --> 01:03:28,480
tuning you know

1384
01:03:33,910 --> 01:03:31,920
whether you decide to tune to 432 and i

1385
01:03:35,270 --> 01:03:33,920
got to tell you

1386
01:03:37,430 --> 01:03:35,280
i i can

1387
01:03:38,870 --> 01:03:37,440
talk a lot about 4 30. you know what

1388
01:03:40,309 --> 01:03:38,880
let's take a well i got to take a break

1389
01:03:42,630 --> 01:03:40,319
right here we're going to come back and

1390
01:03:45,109 --> 01:03:42,640
land right on 432.

1391
01:03:47,510 --> 01:03:45,119
okay we're gonna do four on the floor

1392
01:03:50,150 --> 01:03:47,520
and our one is gonna be

1393
01:03:51,510 --> 01:03:50,160
the 432 let's do that when we come back

1394
01:03:53,910 --> 01:03:51,520
guest tonight

1395
01:03:55,829 --> 01:03:53,920
rudy sarzo this is fade to block i am

1396
01:03:58,549 --> 01:03:55,839
your host jimmy church on the game

1397
01:04:00,470 --> 01:03:58,559
changer and on x networks

1398
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:00,480
this is fade to black more with rudy

1399
01:04:31,750 --> 01:04:28,380
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1400
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:33,990
this is fade to black with jimmy church

1401
01:04:38,950 --> 01:04:37,450
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1402
01:04:41,430 --> 01:04:38,960
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01:04:44,870 --> 01:04:41,440
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[Applause]

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[Music]

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welcome back fade to black i am your

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host jimmy church tonight rudy sarzo is

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with us happy holidays everybody i'm

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your host jimmy church

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01:09:35,910 --> 01:09:34,080
and i want to get straight back into the

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01:09:37,749 --> 01:09:35,920
conversation with rudy

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01:09:39,590 --> 01:09:37,759
and uh

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i know i promised

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01:09:44,070 --> 01:09:41,600
four on the floor the one would be on 4

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01:09:46,229 --> 01:09:44,080
32 and rudy we're gonna get back to that

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01:09:49,110 --> 01:09:46,239
but i was looking at one of the uh

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01:09:52,070 --> 01:09:49,120
uh comments in uh the chat room said

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01:09:54,950 --> 01:09:52,080
that rudy is is one of the nicest people

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01:09:56,630 --> 01:09:54,960
um on this planet and and it got me to

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01:09:59,350 --> 01:09:56,640
thinking um

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01:10:02,470 --> 01:09:59,360
and i don't know if you remember this

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01:10:03,910 --> 01:10:02,480
but um you and i

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01:10:07,910 --> 01:10:03,920
went to

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01:10:10,149 --> 01:10:07,920
an aerosmith concert down in orange

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county somewhere it must have been like

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the pond

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and um

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after the show you and i we did the

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whole backstage thing

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and and we leave and when we walked

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outside of the arena the parking lot was

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01:10:23,270 --> 01:10:22,400
empty

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01:10:25,270 --> 01:10:23,280
and

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01:10:28,070 --> 01:10:25,280
we're walking to my car there's nobody

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01:10:31,430 --> 01:10:28,080
there and we're coming around the arena

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01:10:33,510 --> 01:10:31,440
and there was this kid there by himself

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01:10:35,590 --> 01:10:33,520
at like two o'clock in the morning

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01:10:37,910 --> 01:10:35,600
and he says rudy

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01:10:40,950 --> 01:10:37,920
and and we both stopped and it turned

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01:10:41,990 --> 01:10:40,960
around and you said his name

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01:10:43,110 --> 01:10:42,000
uh

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01:10:46,310 --> 01:10:43,120
and

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01:10:49,750 --> 01:10:46,320
out

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01:10:50,630 --> 01:10:49,760
and you guys talked like old friends

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01:10:55,830 --> 01:10:50,640
and

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01:10:59,350 --> 01:10:55,840
this is what you said to me you said

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01:11:03,110 --> 01:10:59,360
i met he was a fan uh he's a fan

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01:11:05,270 --> 01:11:03,120
and i met him in 1982 in michigan

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01:11:06,950 --> 01:11:05,280
right or something like that

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01:11:09,350 --> 01:11:06,960
and and

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01:11:13,030 --> 01:11:09,360
and i've never forgotten him

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01:11:15,669 --> 01:11:13,040
and that that is your essence uh

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01:11:16,790 --> 01:11:15,679
that that that kindness

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01:11:20,550 --> 01:11:16,800
um

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01:11:22,070 --> 01:11:20,560
how important are fans to you like that

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01:11:23,750 --> 01:11:22,080
uh

1549
01:11:26,070 --> 01:11:23,760
they've always been important but it

1550
01:11:29,430 --> 01:11:26,080
wasn't until i started playing with dio

1551
01:11:30,950 --> 01:11:29,440
with ronnie that i really learned

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01:11:32,310 --> 01:11:30,960
about

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01:11:34,470 --> 01:11:32,320
uh

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01:11:37,830 --> 01:11:34,480
the relationship between

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01:11:40,070 --> 01:11:37,840
us musicians and and fans and and may i

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01:11:42,950 --> 01:11:40,080
add that i've been a fan longer than

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01:11:45,510 --> 01:11:42,960
i've been a professional musician so i i

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completely understand both sides of it

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01:11:48,709 --> 01:11:47,199
and

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ronnie

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i mean

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01:11:55,189 --> 01:11:52,400
ronnie set the bar for me of how to

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01:11:57,270 --> 01:11:55,199
treat your i mean he

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01:11:59,430 --> 01:11:57,280
when i first joined the band

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01:12:02,550 --> 01:11:59,440
we would do that we would uh get off the

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01:12:03,830 --> 01:12:02,560
stage and his personal assistant would

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01:12:06,390 --> 01:12:03,840
come in and say listen there's some

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people here to come and see you and he

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would be like really tired from you know

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done like a two hour plus show and he

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goes oh no okay let me go and say hello

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01:12:16,870 --> 01:12:15,280
and then

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01:12:18,709 --> 01:12:16,880
you know i just joined the band so i was

1574
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like taking it easy i was i was not

1575
01:12:23,189 --> 01:12:20,960
intruding a whole lot and then i would

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01:12:25,189 --> 01:12:23,199
wait like 15 minutes and then make make

1577
01:12:27,270 --> 01:12:25,199
my appearance backstage and say hi to

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01:12:28,470 --> 01:12:27,280
people and he will having the time of

1579
01:12:31,990 --> 01:12:28,480
his life

1580
01:12:35,350 --> 01:12:32,000
talking to the guests that showed up and

1581
01:12:38,630 --> 01:12:35,360
he would you know refer to them by

1582
01:12:41,990 --> 01:12:38,640
their first name he would ask him about

1583
01:12:44,790 --> 01:12:42,000
the relatives that came to see the show

1584
01:12:45,750 --> 01:12:44,800
the last time that he was in town

1585
01:12:47,669 --> 01:12:45,760
and

1586
01:12:49,669 --> 01:12:47,679
this went on

1587
01:12:52,070 --> 01:12:49,679
every night in every city and i'm going

1588
01:12:54,550 --> 01:12:52,080
like oh there's there's gotta be a trick

1589
01:12:57,189 --> 01:12:54,560
here because he how can he remember

1590
01:12:59,350 --> 01:12:57,199
everybody's name and their relatives and

1591
01:13:00,870 --> 01:12:59,360
the last time they were in town and no

1592
01:13:03,270 --> 01:13:00,880
but that was runny

1593
01:13:05,030 --> 01:13:03,280
right right at one point i just gave up

1594
01:13:08,709 --> 01:13:05,040
and said this is the way it is this is

1595
01:13:11,669 --> 01:13:08,719
not a trick this is unbelievable and

1596
01:13:13,750 --> 01:13:11,679
with ronnie the fan the fan base

1597
01:13:16,390 --> 01:13:13,760
was actually a family

1598
01:13:17,990 --> 01:13:16,400
especially in europe we did i did a lot

1599
01:13:19,510 --> 01:13:18,000
of touring with him in europe i only did

1600
01:13:22,790 --> 01:13:19,520
one tour with ronnie in the united

1601
01:13:24,630 --> 01:13:22,800
states that was in 2004 when i first

1602
01:13:25,750 --> 01:13:24,640
joined the band it was like a six-week

1603
01:13:27,990 --> 01:13:25,760
tour

1604
01:13:31,110 --> 01:13:28,000
everything else that we did

1605
01:13:33,830 --> 01:13:31,120
up until 2009

1606
01:13:36,390 --> 01:13:33,840
was uh

1607
01:13:39,350 --> 01:13:36,400
outside of the country

1608
01:13:42,470 --> 01:13:39,360
and i was his last bass player in deal

1609
01:13:44,229 --> 01:13:42,480
and boy do i miss him i mean to me he is

1610
01:13:46,229 --> 01:13:44,239
the epitome

1611
01:13:49,189 --> 01:13:46,239
of a

1612
01:13:51,110 --> 01:13:49,199
of somebody who you know how to really

1613
01:13:53,270 --> 01:13:51,120
have a relationship

1614
01:13:54,390 --> 01:13:53,280
with the people that support you support

1615
01:13:57,510 --> 01:13:54,400
your music

1616
01:13:59,430 --> 01:13:57,520
he was always so nice uh not only to me

1617
01:14:01,110 --> 01:13:59,440
but everybody around him you know i

1618
01:14:03,590 --> 01:14:01,120
would just watch

1619
01:14:04,790 --> 01:14:03,600
how he handled himself i mean total

1620
01:14:06,870 --> 01:14:04,800
grace

1621
01:14:09,030 --> 01:14:06,880
but and there was that part of it but

1622
01:14:10,790 --> 01:14:09,040
it's like man when i grow up i want to

1623
01:14:12,950 --> 01:14:10,800
be just like ronnie

1624
01:14:16,470 --> 01:14:12,960
absolutely if you really want to find

1625
01:14:19,350 --> 01:14:16,480
out about an artist how they really are

1626
01:14:21,430 --> 01:14:19,360
ask anybody in the crew

1627
01:14:23,110 --> 01:14:21,440
they'll they'll tell you you know and

1628
01:14:25,910 --> 01:14:23,120
ronnie or boy

1629
01:14:27,270 --> 01:14:25,920
the crew we had the same crew every tour

1630
01:14:29,590 --> 01:14:27,280
because

1631
01:14:31,510 --> 01:14:29,600
there was such a respect for ronnie that

1632
01:14:33,430 --> 01:14:31,520
you know how it is on tour you you two

1633
01:14:35,669 --> 01:14:33,440
you do like maybe four months take a

1634
01:14:38,870 --> 01:14:35,679
break and then those crew members go to

1635
01:14:41,830 --> 01:14:38,880
on another tour with another band but as

1636
01:14:44,229 --> 01:14:41,840
soon as as management for for ronnie

1637
01:14:46,310 --> 01:14:44,239
will call the crew back and say listen

1638
01:14:47,910 --> 01:14:46,320
ronnie's starting up in october

1639
01:14:50,470 --> 01:14:47,920
they will give notice

1640
01:14:52,630 --> 01:14:50,480
to whoever the crew was working with and

1641
01:14:53,990 --> 01:14:52,640
they would understand this is yeah i i

1642
01:14:57,669 --> 01:14:54,000
get it you know

1643
01:14:59,110 --> 01:14:57,679
i um uh did you did you you played with

1644
01:15:01,510 --> 01:14:59,120
doug right

1645
01:15:03,030 --> 01:15:01,520
oh yes i did yes i did we even made a

1646
01:15:05,830 --> 01:15:03,040
dvd

1647
01:15:08,390 --> 01:15:05,840
live in uh

1648
01:15:09,350 --> 01:15:08,400
in in london at the astoria in london

1649
01:15:11,990 --> 01:15:09,360
yeah

1650
01:15:13,669 --> 01:15:12,000
that's doug playing the bumper music on

1651
01:15:15,189 --> 01:15:13,679
the show oh wow but you were just

1652
01:15:17,270 --> 01:15:15,199
somebody yeah you were just banging your

1653
01:15:18,470 --> 01:15:17,280
head that was and you know what's funny

1654
01:15:20,630 --> 01:15:18,480
check this out

1655
01:15:23,030 --> 01:15:20,640
what you're listening to

1656
01:15:25,430 --> 01:15:23,040
we recorded remember when doug lived

1657
01:15:27,750 --> 01:15:25,440
next to you in sherman oaks up on the

1658
01:15:30,550 --> 01:15:27,760
hill we recorded that album that you're

1659
01:15:31,350 --> 01:15:30,560
listening to at that house

1660
01:15:37,110 --> 01:15:31,360
right

1661
01:15:41,030 --> 01:15:39,030
staying back on this

1662
01:15:42,070 --> 01:15:41,040
uh 4 32.

1663
01:15:45,669 --> 01:15:42,080
oh yeah

1664
01:15:47,030 --> 01:15:45,679
this conversation uh uh has been

1665
01:15:49,990 --> 01:15:47,040
surfacing

1666
01:15:52,310 --> 01:15:50,000
uh uh the last 10 years or so

1667
01:15:54,709 --> 01:15:52,320
about the significance of 432 and

1668
01:15:58,709 --> 01:15:54,719
bouncing backwards off of

1669
01:16:00,550 --> 01:15:58,719
uh 440. now i've got 100 guitars here

1670
01:16:03,510 --> 01:16:00,560
um behind me

1671
01:16:06,470 --> 01:16:03,520
and i would say that half

1672
01:16:09,669 --> 01:16:06,480
if if it's in standard tuning i i have

1673
01:16:11,910 --> 01:16:09,679
now started to bounce it down to 432

1674
01:16:14,390 --> 01:16:11,920
and everything just responds differently

1675
01:16:17,189 --> 01:16:14,400
not only the instrument itself

1676
01:16:18,830 --> 01:16:17,199
but it's the electronics it's your ears

1677
01:16:20,950 --> 01:16:18,840
it's it's the

1678
01:16:23,270 --> 01:16:20,960
amplifiers everything

1679
01:16:26,870 --> 01:16:23,280
that's the universe speaking to us isn't

1680
01:16:27,910 --> 01:16:26,880
it what's what's the magic of 432

1681
01:16:29,990 --> 01:16:27,920
uh

1682
01:16:32,149 --> 01:16:30,000
you know there's so much information and

1683
01:16:34,470 --> 01:16:32,159
also misinformation

1684
01:16:35,510 --> 01:16:34,480
regarding 432

1685
01:16:42,709 --> 01:16:35,520
and

1686
01:16:45,350 --> 01:16:42,719
all i can go by is experience

1687
01:16:48,149 --> 01:16:45,360
and i have many experiences with 432

1688
01:16:49,990 --> 01:16:48,159
even before i knew that it was a thing a

1689
01:16:52,149 --> 01:16:50,000
thing meaning you know people talking

1690
01:16:55,030 --> 01:16:52,159
about it and discussions and you know

1691
01:16:56,390 --> 01:16:55,040
whatever and conspiracy theory it all

1692
01:16:58,229 --> 01:16:56,400
goes back to

1693
01:16:59,270 --> 01:16:58,239
playing in choir riot

1694
01:17:01,990 --> 01:16:59,280
kevin

1695
01:17:04,630 --> 01:17:02,000
okay randy had this tuner it was an i'm

1696
01:17:06,550 --> 01:17:04,640
talking about 70s tuner right

1697
01:17:08,310 --> 01:17:06,560
that it was not locked

1698
01:17:10,100 --> 01:17:08,320
to a certain pitch

1699
01:17:11,430 --> 01:17:10,110
it had a pitch fork like

1700
01:17:13,750 --> 01:17:11,440
[Music]

1701
01:17:15,510 --> 01:17:13,760
right and and kevin would listen to it

1702
01:17:18,310 --> 01:17:15,520
and go that's it that's the one that's

1703
01:17:20,550 --> 01:17:18,320
one right so we would we would leave

1704
01:17:22,790 --> 01:17:20,560
that that it was a knob that would you

1705
01:17:24,950 --> 01:17:22,800
know you could go counter clockwise and

1706
01:17:27,910 --> 01:17:24,960
clockwise you know to tune into to that

1707
01:17:30,070 --> 01:17:27,920
pitch so we would tune to that right

1708
01:17:33,910 --> 01:17:30,080
and uh

1709
01:17:36,709 --> 01:17:33,920
when we reunited in the 90s

1710
01:17:38,630 --> 01:17:36,719
we had to use that same tuning again i

1711
01:17:40,070 --> 01:17:38,640
don't know if you recall this i have one

1712
01:17:42,950 --> 01:17:40,080
of those uh

1713
01:17:45,270 --> 01:17:42,960
rack mounted korg yes i remember that

1714
01:17:47,189 --> 01:17:45,280
yes i do remember that yeah and and what

1715
01:17:50,149 --> 01:17:47,199
carlos and i did we took two little

1716
01:17:53,430 --> 01:17:50,159
pieces of tape and we took all the way

1717
01:17:55,110 --> 01:17:53,440
to the very last strobe

1718
01:17:57,030 --> 01:17:55,120
the little light

1719
01:18:02,310 --> 01:17:57,040
you know on the left

1720
01:18:05,910 --> 01:18:02,320
of of what 440 would be you know and

1721
01:18:07,910 --> 01:18:05,920
i am not certain if it's exactly 432 but

1722
01:18:10,310 --> 01:18:07,920
it was not e flat

1723
01:18:13,430 --> 01:18:10,320
and it was not e it was right in between

1724
01:18:16,149 --> 01:18:13,440
that right and that's what we tuned to

1725
01:18:19,030 --> 01:18:16,159
if you listen to the to the album metal

1726
01:18:19,910 --> 01:18:19,040
health there's different tunings in that

1727
01:18:22,470 --> 01:18:19,920
uh

1728
01:18:24,870 --> 01:18:22,480
when where you hear keyboards like

1729
01:18:27,830 --> 01:18:24,880
thunderbird yeah that's tuned to uh to

1730
01:18:30,550 --> 01:18:27,840
a440 but a lot of the other stuff that

1731
01:18:33,350 --> 01:18:30,560
is just guitar based

1732
01:18:37,110 --> 01:18:33,360
it's not tuned to a40 if you listen to

1733
01:18:39,350 --> 01:18:37,120
come on feel the noise it's not a440

1734
01:18:42,470 --> 01:18:39,360
you know and

1735
01:18:44,870 --> 01:18:42,480
i when i hear okay you know like there's

1736
01:18:47,990 --> 01:18:44,880
there's all all of these uh

1737
01:18:51,350 --> 01:18:48,000
youtube videos where like the guitar

1738
01:18:54,070 --> 01:18:51,360
player comes on and he goes okay

1739
01:18:57,030 --> 01:18:54,080
i'm gonna play the song and then you

1740
01:18:58,870 --> 01:18:57,040
tell me if it feels like a 440 or 432 i

1741
01:19:01,350 --> 01:18:58,880
can always tell the difference

1742
01:19:03,669 --> 01:19:01,360
it's any it's emotional it's an

1743
01:19:04,470 --> 01:19:03,679
emotional

1744
01:19:11,030 --> 01:19:04,480
not

1745
01:19:12,550 --> 01:19:11,040
is so such no it's i feel it

1746
01:19:14,870 --> 01:19:12,560
it's you know what i mean maybe it's

1747
01:19:16,310 --> 01:19:14,880
because for such a long time i played to

1748
01:19:19,110 --> 01:19:16,320
432

1749
01:19:21,750 --> 01:19:19,120
that it has a certain emotional

1750
01:19:23,590 --> 01:19:21,760
frequency it vibrates it resonates with

1751
01:19:25,590 --> 01:19:23,600
me completely different than a40 and

1752
01:19:29,270 --> 01:19:25,600
what about your bases do you think the

1753
01:19:32,229 --> 01:19:29,280
uh the wood um is resonating uh

1754
01:19:34,070 --> 01:19:32,239
differently too as well the 432 nature

1755
01:19:34,950 --> 01:19:34,080
is responding a little bit differently

1756
01:19:37,270 --> 01:19:34,960
to it

1757
01:19:38,390 --> 01:19:37,280
you know it would make sense that that

1758
01:19:39,750 --> 01:19:38,400
it would

1759
01:19:42,229 --> 01:19:39,760
uh

1760
01:19:44,790 --> 01:19:42,239
but it's something that i cannot confirm

1761
01:19:46,470 --> 01:19:44,800
i have seen a lot of

1762
01:19:49,110 --> 01:19:46,480
uh experiment

1763
01:19:51,590 --> 01:19:49,120
experiments done with uh

1764
01:19:55,750 --> 01:19:51,600
what's that called synoptics

1765
01:19:57,189 --> 01:19:55,760
oh yes uh cymatics cymatic cymatics i

1766
01:20:00,070 --> 01:19:57,199
mean for the listeners out there for

1767
01:20:02,630 --> 01:20:00,080
example they put like like salt on it on

1768
01:20:05,110 --> 01:20:02,640
a speaker that is upside down you know

1769
01:20:07,830 --> 01:20:05,120
like facing up like like a bowl

1770
01:20:10,390 --> 01:20:07,840
and according to the frequencies it will

1771
01:20:13,669 --> 01:20:10,400
create certain what is considered sacred

1772
01:20:16,470 --> 01:20:13,679
geometry yes shapes shapes according to

1773
01:20:19,189 --> 01:20:16,480
the frequency some 432 is one of them i

1774
01:20:21,990 --> 01:20:19,199
have a i have a bunch of uh cymatic

1775
01:20:23,430 --> 01:20:22,000
stuff that uh michael lee hill

1776
01:20:25,669 --> 01:20:23,440
has sent to me i don't know if you know

1777
01:20:28,870 --> 01:20:25,679
michael great guitar player

1778
01:20:31,430 --> 01:20:28,880
but he's a big 432 guy and

1779
01:20:33,830 --> 01:20:31,440
and he does sacred geometry uh with

1780
01:20:37,110 --> 01:20:33,840
cymatics and 432

1781
01:20:39,669 --> 01:20:37,120
and and creates these uh ceramic uh

1782
01:20:42,390 --> 01:20:39,679
pieces of art i have a bunch of it here

1783
01:20:45,590 --> 01:20:42,400
yeah and how it aligns and it's it's

1784
01:20:48,149 --> 01:20:45,600
funny because when you look at 440 440

1785
01:20:51,750 --> 01:20:48,159
uh lays out in cymatics just distorted

1786
01:20:53,669 --> 01:20:51,760
and confused it's trying to get there

1787
01:20:54,870 --> 01:20:53,679
right and then you get it to 432 and

1788
01:21:00,149 --> 01:20:54,880
it's perfect

1789
01:21:02,629 --> 01:21:00,159
that but you know i mean this this whole

1790
01:21:04,550 --> 01:21:02,639
journey that that i started when when

1791
01:21:06,470 --> 01:21:04,560
lockdown came in

1792
01:21:08,629 --> 01:21:06,480
and it's like okay i'm going to utilize

1793
01:21:12,310 --> 01:21:08,639
this time to become a better human being

1794
01:21:15,270 --> 01:21:12,320
and and and and a better musician

1795
01:21:17,590 --> 01:21:15,280
you know and it's it was a matter of

1796
01:21:19,350 --> 01:21:17,600
sifting through information and it was

1797
01:21:21,830 --> 01:21:19,360
like going down a rabbit hole because if

1798
01:21:23,510 --> 01:21:21,840
you go on youtube one video is like oh

1799
01:21:25,350 --> 01:21:23,520
if you watch this video well then we

1800
01:21:28,149 --> 01:21:25,360
recommend this other video you know

1801
01:21:31,430 --> 01:21:28,159
right so basically i started out with

1802
01:21:34,390 --> 01:21:31,440
fibonacci numbers the golden ratio yes

1803
01:21:36,629 --> 01:21:34,400
tesla yes you know 369. all of that

1804
01:21:40,310 --> 01:21:36,639
right because i was looking at

1805
01:21:43,189 --> 01:21:40,320
not only frequencies but but intervals

1806
01:21:44,629 --> 01:21:43,199
interval relationship you know and all

1807
01:21:47,350 --> 01:21:44,639
and and one of the things that really

1808
01:21:50,070 --> 01:21:47,360
fascinated me about the golden ratio

1809
01:21:52,310 --> 01:21:50,080
was that it is

1810
01:21:53,669 --> 01:21:52,320
and again you know these are videos that

1811
01:21:56,550 --> 01:21:53,679
i don't you know i don't know if it

1812
01:21:59,750 --> 01:21:56,560
happened per chance that

1813
01:22:01,430 --> 01:21:59,760
that for example certain songs hit songs

1814
01:22:03,189 --> 01:22:01,440
and the golden ratio when it gets to

1815
01:22:05,430 --> 01:22:03,199
that moment

1816
01:22:08,390 --> 01:22:05,440
in in the song which is what is the

1817
01:22:11,750 --> 01:22:08,400
three points

1818
01:22:13,990 --> 01:22:11,760
the ratio i don't have it memorized but

1819
01:22:16,390 --> 01:22:14,000
i can it's almost like two-thirds it's a

1820
01:22:19,110 --> 01:22:16,400
little bit around two-thirds right so

1821
01:22:21,189 --> 01:22:19,120
two-thirds of the song this

1822
01:22:24,470 --> 01:22:21,199
thing happens it's either a bridge or a

1823
01:22:26,950 --> 01:22:24,480
breakdown or something unusual

1824
01:22:28,470 --> 01:22:26,960
like let's say an under pressure queen

1825
01:22:29,669 --> 01:22:28,480
that's one of the songs that they use as

1826
01:22:32,470 --> 01:22:29,679
an example

1827
01:22:35,189 --> 01:22:32,480
you know where where that buildup starts

1828
01:22:36,629 --> 01:22:35,199
happening right there um right

1829
01:22:42,070 --> 01:22:36,639
after

1830
01:22:44,390 --> 01:22:42,080
to under pressure

1831
01:22:45,990 --> 01:22:44,400
you know what i mean i do it's like yeah

1832
01:22:48,070 --> 01:22:46,000
so they have to like you know they start

1833
01:22:50,149 --> 01:22:48,080
play uh showing you all these songs that

1834
01:22:52,229 --> 01:22:50,159
have these moments

1835
01:22:54,070 --> 01:22:52,239
right there it's either right after the

1836
01:22:55,750 --> 01:22:54,080
solo there's a breakdown or something

1837
01:22:57,830 --> 01:22:55,760
like that and

1838
01:23:00,950 --> 01:22:57,840
it's all related to the

1839
01:23:03,030 --> 01:23:00,960
the golden ratio pythagoras

1840
01:23:04,629 --> 01:23:03,040
the sulfatial scale

1841
01:23:07,669 --> 01:23:04,639
so i'm going like okay i'm into

1842
01:23:08,470 --> 01:23:07,679
something here but then again it's

1843
01:23:32,470 --> 01:23:08,480
i

1844
01:23:39,110 --> 01:23:35,350
yeah 1979 1980

1845
01:23:40,149 --> 01:23:39,120
uh i was living in west hollywood

1846
01:23:41,350 --> 01:23:40,159
and

1847
01:23:43,510 --> 01:23:41,360
you know

1848
01:23:46,790 --> 01:23:43,520
i came here in the 70s uh how long have

1849
01:23:49,669 --> 01:23:46,800
you been in los angeles i i'm uh when i

1850
01:23:51,830 --> 01:23:49,679
uh 1984.

1851
01:23:55,590 --> 01:23:51,840
okay in the 70s there was this

1852
01:23:57,350 --> 01:23:55,600
renaissance of of spirituality and and

1853
01:24:00,149 --> 01:23:57,360
you know like alternate

1854
01:24:01,270 --> 01:24:00,159
alternate uh

1855
01:24:03,990 --> 01:24:01,280
lifestyles

1856
01:24:06,310 --> 01:24:04,000
life's yeah yeah you know like um

1857
01:24:08,709 --> 01:24:06,320
crystal's awakening yeah yeah all of

1858
01:24:10,629 --> 01:24:08,719
that yes yes okay i mean i i don't want

1859
01:24:11,510 --> 01:24:10,639
to use the name that that would like you

1860
01:24:17,350 --> 01:24:11,520
know

1861
01:24:20,550 --> 01:24:17,360
i i i got into it i i wanted to see the

1862
01:24:22,709 --> 01:24:20,560
options in there and boy i was living in

1863
01:24:23,590 --> 01:24:22,719
west hollywood right there of

1864
01:24:26,310 --> 01:24:23,600
of

1865
01:24:28,229 --> 01:24:26,320
across from tower records so i was smack

1866
01:24:29,669 --> 01:24:28,239
in the middle of it i started working at

1867
01:24:31,590 --> 01:24:29,679
this

1868
01:24:34,310 --> 01:24:31,600
vegetarian fast food place called

1869
01:24:38,070 --> 01:24:34,320
mcnaturals that was owned by the baker

1870
01:24:40,709 --> 01:24:38,080
family now jim baker was who who created

1871
01:24:43,430 --> 01:24:40,719
the restaurant the source yes and the

1872
01:24:46,229 --> 01:24:43,440
old world you know and the the source

1873
01:24:48,790 --> 01:24:46,239
was all vegetarian so there was like you

1874
01:24:52,070 --> 01:24:48,800
know this enlightenment about

1875
01:24:58,310 --> 01:24:52,790
it

1876
01:25:00,629 --> 01:24:58,320
coming from a heavy catholic background

1877
01:25:03,189 --> 01:25:00,639
you know latin culture

1878
01:25:04,550 --> 01:25:03,199
looking at this as like a

1879
01:25:05,590 --> 01:25:04,560
new age

1880
01:25:07,750 --> 01:25:05,600
you know

1881
01:25:10,310 --> 01:25:07,760
and it was like okay this is interesting

1882
01:25:12,390 --> 01:25:10,320
you know let me check this out right so

1883
01:25:15,189 --> 01:25:12,400
you know i mean eventually

1884
01:25:17,270 --> 01:25:15,199
everything became very clear very clear

1885
01:25:18,709 --> 01:25:17,280
to me where my path is and i'm a

1886
01:25:21,350 --> 01:25:18,719
christian i've been reading the bible

1887
01:25:23,830 --> 01:25:21,360
for over 45 years every single day

1888
01:25:25,430 --> 01:25:23,840
you know uh i used to get off the stage

1889
01:25:27,430 --> 01:25:25,440
playing with ozzy go in my bunk and read

1890
01:25:29,510 --> 01:25:27,440
the bible

1891
01:25:31,110 --> 01:25:29,520
just because i was grateful

1892
01:25:32,950 --> 01:25:31,120
for the blessing

1893
01:25:34,950 --> 01:25:32,960
that i'm you know that i just got off

1894
01:25:37,270 --> 01:25:34,960
the stage with this amazing

1895
01:25:39,270 --> 01:25:37,280
band you know and uh

1896
01:25:41,189 --> 01:25:39,280
you know even today i still i still do

1897
01:25:41,990 --> 01:25:41,199
that that's at the core of who i am you

1898
01:25:43,110 --> 01:25:42,000
know

1899
01:25:45,350 --> 01:25:43,120
but

1900
01:25:48,070 --> 01:25:45,360
there was i knew

1901
01:25:51,669 --> 01:25:48,080
i knew i felt that there's there's more

1902
01:25:53,590 --> 01:25:51,679
to it than just what the priests or the

1903
01:25:56,149 --> 01:25:53,600
sermons would teach you

1904
01:25:59,270 --> 01:25:56,159
there's there's there's a

1905
01:26:01,990 --> 01:25:59,280
a closer connection with our creator

1906
01:26:03,189 --> 01:26:02,000
that you do not have to go through

1907
01:26:08,470 --> 01:26:03,199
man

1908
01:26:10,870 --> 01:26:08,480
you this is the way right what to do

1909
01:26:12,790 --> 01:26:10,880
right yeah you know and again i'm a

1910
01:26:13,590 --> 01:26:12,800
christian you know okay

1911
01:26:16,229 --> 01:26:13,600
so

1912
01:26:17,270 --> 01:26:16,239
i started meditating

1913
01:26:19,590 --> 01:26:17,280
without even knowing that i was

1914
01:26:21,669 --> 01:26:19,600
meditating i was meditating because i i

1915
01:26:22,550 --> 01:26:21,679
would i would you know i would read the

1916
01:26:23,590 --> 01:26:22,560
bible

1917
01:26:26,790 --> 01:26:23,600
i would

1918
01:26:29,669 --> 01:26:26,800
just you know meditate do my prayers and

1919
01:26:31,270 --> 01:26:29,679
one day i'm laying in bed

1920
01:26:35,030 --> 01:26:31,280
my eyes close

1921
01:26:37,430 --> 01:26:35,040
and i hear this really high pitch sound

1922
01:26:39,910 --> 01:26:37,440
it's like

1923
01:26:42,149 --> 01:26:39,920
like that that's that's that's that was

1924
01:26:44,550 --> 01:26:42,159
the the frequency right

1925
01:26:47,590 --> 01:26:44,560
and i opened my eyes

1926
01:26:48,470 --> 01:26:47,600
and there is this transparent

1927
01:26:58,470 --> 01:26:48,480
uh

1928
01:27:00,070 --> 01:26:58,480
those dynamos what do you call that that

1929
01:27:02,070 --> 01:27:00,080
they keep

1930
01:27:04,390 --> 01:27:02,080
it was like okay so it was like looking

1931
01:27:06,870 --> 01:27:04,400
at a fan that was spinning

1932
01:27:08,310 --> 01:27:06,880
a gyroscope just a gyroscope right right

1933
01:27:10,629 --> 01:27:08,320
right right but

1934
01:27:11,510 --> 01:27:10,639
but by the flat gyroscope like like a

1935
01:27:12,950 --> 01:27:11,520
dish

1936
01:27:16,070 --> 01:27:12,960
and

1937
01:27:17,510 --> 01:27:16,080
at the core there was a a

1938
01:27:20,629 --> 01:27:17,520
denser

1939
01:27:23,110 --> 01:27:20,639
center to it with more mass of energy

1940
01:27:25,430 --> 01:27:23,120
and then on the outside it was spinning

1941
01:27:26,790 --> 01:27:25,440
like really fast like like blades of a

1942
01:27:29,110 --> 01:27:26,800
fan

1943
01:27:31,110 --> 01:27:29,120
and i saw that

1944
01:27:33,110 --> 01:27:31,120
and it's transparent right

1945
01:27:34,149 --> 01:27:33,120
i saw that and i didn't want to disturb

1946
01:27:38,070 --> 01:27:34,159
it

1947
01:27:39,270 --> 01:27:38,080
did not freak out i just opened my eyes

1948
01:27:40,870 --> 01:27:39,280
lay still

1949
01:27:42,149 --> 01:27:40,880
let it happen so it went from the top of

1950
01:27:45,350 --> 01:27:42,159
my head

1951
01:27:47,350 --> 01:27:45,360
all the way to my toes and then

1952
01:27:49,750 --> 01:27:47,360
it projected itself

1953
01:27:52,470 --> 01:27:49,760
on the wall and it was a

1954
01:27:53,830 --> 01:27:52,480
white wall a whole white room and an

1955
01:27:56,310 --> 01:27:53,840
apartment

1956
01:27:59,669 --> 01:27:56,320
and then i started seeing visions

1957
01:28:00,870 --> 01:27:59,679
but these visions were still energy

1958
01:28:02,870 --> 01:28:00,880
and

1959
01:28:04,149 --> 01:28:02,880
3d they would move around they were

1960
01:28:05,430 --> 01:28:04,159
rotated

1961
01:28:07,350 --> 01:28:05,440
you know

1962
01:28:11,110 --> 01:28:07,360
and

1963
01:28:13,910 --> 01:28:11,120
this for the last over 40 years

1964
01:28:16,550 --> 01:28:13,920
i have been looking for what the heck is

1965
01:28:19,350 --> 01:28:16,560
that because i still see it right i can

1966
01:28:21,430 --> 01:28:19,360
go into the meditative state and see it

1967
01:28:23,110 --> 01:28:21,440
now i see even more than i've ever done

1968
01:28:24,390 --> 01:28:23,120
in the past because i found out what it

1969
01:28:27,030 --> 01:28:24,400
was right

1970
01:28:28,390 --> 01:28:27,040
so in my in going down the rabbit hole

1971
01:28:30,070 --> 01:28:28,400
going like okay i know i'm getting

1972
01:28:32,229 --> 01:28:30,080
closer i'm getting close with this okay

1973
01:28:34,790 --> 01:28:32,239
and i'm doing this because of music but

1974
01:28:37,189 --> 01:28:34,800
it's all related once i found out about

1975
01:28:38,070 --> 01:28:37,199
waves that we are waves i'm going like

1976
01:28:44,149 --> 01:28:38,080
okay

1977
01:28:46,709 --> 01:28:44,159
and then i went into quantum physics

1978
01:28:49,189 --> 01:28:46,719
say okay this is it this this this is

1979
01:28:51,270 --> 01:28:49,199
the mother of it all right here okay

1980
01:28:53,990 --> 01:28:51,280
quantum physics right then i started you

1981
01:28:58,070 --> 01:28:54,000
know then video started popping up and

1982
01:29:00,229 --> 01:28:58,080
one of them was dr joe dispenza yes

1983
01:29:01,910 --> 01:29:00,239
dr joe oh yeah and

1984
01:29:03,590 --> 01:29:01,920
yeah and i started like

1985
01:29:06,229 --> 01:29:03,600
watching all his videos and everything

1986
01:29:08,870 --> 01:29:06,239
and i'm like fascinated because i say

1987
01:29:11,750 --> 01:29:08,880
i really resonate you know his i wait i

1988
01:29:13,910 --> 01:29:11,760
i get it you know what he's saying i

1989
01:29:17,110 --> 01:29:13,920
completely 100 a thousand percent i get

1990
01:29:21,430 --> 01:29:17,120
it completely then in one of his

1991
01:29:23,189 --> 01:29:21,440
events he started talking about seeing

1992
01:29:27,350 --> 01:29:23,199
uh visions

1993
01:29:31,830 --> 01:29:27,360
and seeing the sacred geometry

1994
01:29:36,790 --> 01:29:34,950
it's like scanning your barcode is

1995
01:29:39,910 --> 01:29:36,800
information that comes down from the

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01:29:41,750 --> 01:29:39,920
quentin field and and gives you

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01:29:43,350 --> 01:29:41,760
source of information that's being

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enlightened

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because the information is coming

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through you

2001
01:29:54,870 --> 01:29:51,280
and you and

2002
01:29:57,430 --> 01:29:54,880
and with your pineal gland you start to

2003
01:29:59,910 --> 01:29:57,440
it activates a third eye

2004
01:30:02,310 --> 01:29:59,920
in that meditative state and you start

2005
01:30:04,950 --> 01:30:02,320
scanning this information

2006
01:30:07,189 --> 01:30:04,960
from this barcode and

2007
01:30:08,149 --> 01:30:07,199
i gotta tell you once that was explained

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01:30:09,750 --> 01:30:08,159
to me

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01:30:11,910 --> 01:30:09,760
immediately

2010
01:30:13,189 --> 01:30:11,920
it became even

2011
01:30:15,350 --> 01:30:13,199
the the

2012
01:30:17,110 --> 01:30:15,360
divisions became

2013
01:30:20,629 --> 01:30:17,120
more constant

2014
01:30:21,510 --> 01:30:20,639
more vivid now i started to see colors

2015
01:30:26,149 --> 01:30:21,520
and

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01:30:27,669 --> 01:30:26,159
colors that uh they look like uh

2017
01:30:30,149 --> 01:30:27,679
gradients

2018
01:30:33,189 --> 01:30:30,159
that will go from one color to the other

2019
01:30:36,310 --> 01:30:33,199
but there will be a grade in between

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01:30:39,270 --> 01:30:36,320
you know like fading from i do from from

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01:30:41,350 --> 01:30:39,280
from blue to red and in between you have

2022
01:30:44,229 --> 01:30:41,360
that middle color of the gradient in

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01:30:45,990 --> 01:30:44,239
there and with the geometry

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01:30:47,669 --> 01:30:46,000
that would

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01:30:50,629 --> 01:30:47,679
change shapes

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01:30:51,910 --> 01:30:50,639
but as the gradient moves the shape

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01:30:55,030 --> 01:30:51,920
changes

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01:30:56,470 --> 01:30:55,040
so my pineal gland is reading that as a

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01:30:58,470 --> 01:30:56,480
barcode

2030
01:31:01,110 --> 01:30:58,480
and getting all this information you

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01:31:03,590 --> 01:31:01,120
know we talk about this subject every

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01:31:06,709 --> 01:31:03,600
night on fade to black

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01:31:08,870 --> 01:31:06,719
you need to uh uh at some point uh

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01:31:10,310 --> 01:31:08,880
there's a conference rudy you need to

2035
01:31:12,709 --> 01:31:10,320
come uh

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01:31:15,110 --> 01:31:12,719
it's big it's like 15 000 people it's at

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the lax hilton it's called the conscious

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life expo

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i host it

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okay

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01:31:23,990 --> 01:31:21,679
and you need i'm inviting you now you

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01:31:26,310 --> 01:31:24,000
need to come down i'm going to introduce

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01:31:28,390 --> 01:31:26,320
you to all of these people

2044
01:31:32,310 --> 01:31:28,400
and this is exact this is what fade to

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01:31:34,070 --> 01:31:32,320
black is all about and what is it

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01:31:35,110 --> 01:31:34,080
february

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4th

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01:31:39,189 --> 01:31:36,719
oh okay i'll give you all the

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01:31:41,910 --> 01:31:39,199
information but uh yeah you would have

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01:31:42,709 --> 01:31:41,920
the best time now uh we got to head to a

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break

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um

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01:31:49,590 --> 01:31:46,080
i i gotta ask you uh

2054
01:31:52,310 --> 01:31:49,600
is becca with you on this too as well is

2055
01:31:53,510 --> 01:31:52,320
her third eye lit up

2056
01:31:55,669 --> 01:31:53,520
uh

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01:31:58,310 --> 01:31:55,679
she's doing unbelievable

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01:32:00,070 --> 01:31:58,320
um she's doing better than i mean our

2059
01:32:02,310 --> 01:32:00,080
relationship is

2060
01:32:07,590 --> 01:32:02,320
it's so strong you know better better

2061
01:32:12,470 --> 01:32:10,070
i want her to keep doing it

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let's take our break right here this is

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fade to black our guest tonight the one

2064
01:32:19,110 --> 01:32:17,280
and only rudy sarzo is here

2065
01:32:22,390 --> 01:32:19,120
we have never

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01:32:24,229 --> 01:32:22,400
talked about this stuff ever

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01:32:26,310 --> 01:32:24,239
best conversation ever i'm your host

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jimmy church this is fade to block on

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the game changer network and on x

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we'll be right back after this short

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break stay with us

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way out here we listen to jimmy church

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you're listening to fade to black

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[Applause]

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you're listening to jimmy church and

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fade to black

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this is jimmy church and i personally

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invite you to the 2022 conscious life

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expo this february 4th through the 7th

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headed do you wonder about the food

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supply i do disruptions in the food

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they usually occur with little warning

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that's why the smartest thing you can do

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you are listening to fate to black with

2140
01:36:11,830 --> 01:36:08,840
jimmy church on the game changer

2141
01:36:14,070 --> 01:36:11,840
network hi i'm rhys evans you're

2142
01:36:17,030 --> 01:36:14,080
listening to jimmy church this is

2143
01:36:21,430 --> 01:36:17,040
revolution the revolution will not be

2144
01:36:26,050 --> 01:36:21,440
televised the revolution is on radio

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[Music]

2146
01:37:08,149 --> 01:37:05,990
welcome back fade to black i am your

2147
01:37:10,390 --> 01:37:08,159
host jimmy church tonight rudy sarzo is

2148
01:37:12,470 --> 01:37:10,400
here again happy holidays everybody it

2149
01:37:14,550 --> 01:37:12,480
is the season

2150
01:37:17,189 --> 01:37:14,560
very excited about having rudy on

2151
01:37:19,510 --> 01:37:17,199
finally as a guest here on on fade to

2152
01:37:22,629 --> 01:37:19,520
black we've talked about this a lot over

2153
01:37:25,189 --> 01:37:22,639
the years he's just like the busiest guy

2154
01:37:28,070 --> 01:37:25,199
but uh we finally the stars in the moon

2155
01:37:29,350 --> 01:37:28,080
have aligned and rudy is with us tonight

2156
01:37:33,750 --> 01:37:29,360
rudy

2157
01:37:36,229 --> 01:37:33,760
this experience in in 1979

2158
01:37:38,950 --> 01:37:36,239
is is an interesting one and and being

2159
01:37:40,629 --> 01:37:38,960
able to stop and recognize uh what is

2160
01:37:42,709 --> 01:37:40,639
going on at that moment

2161
01:37:44,709 --> 01:37:42,719
and one of the things that i like to

2162
01:37:47,430 --> 01:37:44,719
talk about a lot on the show

2163
01:37:48,950 --> 01:37:47,440
is not only meditation but how uh

2164
01:37:51,109 --> 01:37:48,960
creative people

2165
01:37:55,109 --> 01:37:51,119
it doesn't matter if you're a fine

2166
01:37:56,229 --> 01:37:55,119
artist or a poet a writer a musician an

2167
01:37:58,629 --> 01:37:56,239
actor

2168
01:38:01,350 --> 01:37:58,639
but you find a way

2169
01:38:04,149 --> 01:38:01,360
to get into the zone

2170
01:38:07,590 --> 01:38:04,159
you get into the zone and and you've

2171
01:38:09,350 --> 01:38:07,600
been playing for a long time

2172
01:38:12,070 --> 01:38:09,360
how do you

2173
01:38:14,629 --> 01:38:12,080
get into the zone and do you recognize

2174
01:38:18,149 --> 01:38:14,639
it and is it similar to

2175
01:38:19,830 --> 01:38:18,159
your experience in 1979

2176
01:38:21,830 --> 01:38:19,840
getting into the zone that is uh you

2177
01:38:23,109 --> 01:38:21,840
know that's something that i don't work

2178
01:38:24,950 --> 01:38:23,119
on

2179
01:38:27,189 --> 01:38:24,960
uh

2180
01:38:30,470 --> 01:38:27,199
it's like breathing i don't work on

2181
01:38:31,510 --> 01:38:30,480
breathing or eating i i i just i just do

2182
01:38:34,070 --> 01:38:31,520
it

2183
01:38:35,910 --> 01:38:34,080
you know i'm not really conscious about

2184
01:38:36,790 --> 01:38:35,920
getting into the zone i do understand

2185
01:38:40,870 --> 01:38:36,800
about

2186
01:38:42,830 --> 01:38:40,880
i know when i am not in the zone right

2187
01:38:45,910 --> 01:38:42,840
and that that's what when i get

2188
01:38:47,830 --> 01:38:45,920
concerned so to me it's like uh it's

2189
01:38:49,430 --> 01:38:47,840
like for example if i stop breathing i'm

2190
01:38:51,430 --> 01:38:49,440
gonna be concerned about that so i gotta

2191
01:38:52,310 --> 01:38:51,440
do something about it you know

2192
01:38:56,629 --> 01:38:52,320
and

2193
01:38:58,310 --> 01:38:56,639
so i am always in the zone

2194
01:39:01,430 --> 01:38:58,320
and when i'm not in the zone that's when

2195
01:39:03,590 --> 01:39:01,440
i notice it you know what i mean so it's

2196
01:39:09,910 --> 01:39:03,600
that's

2197
01:39:11,990 --> 01:39:09,920
wired to work always being in the zone

2198
01:39:15,030 --> 01:39:12,000
from the moment that i wake up even when

2199
01:39:17,590 --> 01:39:15,040
i sleep i'm in the zone

2200
01:39:21,910 --> 01:39:17,600
because i i do certain exercises right

2201
01:39:32,470 --> 01:39:22,629
i

2202
01:39:34,229 --> 01:39:32,480
okay uh what what do you do for that

2203
01:39:38,070 --> 01:39:34,239
activation

2204
01:39:38,950 --> 01:39:38,080
oh it's very i i'm doing it right now

2205
01:39:43,189 --> 01:39:38,960
it's

2206
01:39:44,470 --> 01:39:43,199
uh do you have the can you sense

2207
01:39:46,550 --> 01:39:44,480
uh

2208
01:39:48,070 --> 01:39:46,560
your in your face

2209
01:39:50,310 --> 01:39:48,080
certain

2210
01:39:53,669 --> 01:39:50,320
things like for example i can right now

2211
01:39:56,790 --> 01:39:53,679
my the the middle right right here right

2212
01:39:59,750 --> 01:39:56,800
at the uh the bridge of my nose

2213
01:40:02,229 --> 01:39:59,760
between my eyebrows is i sense it

2214
01:40:05,510 --> 01:40:02,239
getting hotter warmer it gets a little

2215
01:40:09,189 --> 01:40:05,520
warm so i know that i'm activating it

2216
01:40:12,229 --> 01:40:09,199
now what is about to happen i

2217
01:40:15,830 --> 01:40:14,390
because they might just i might just go

2218
01:40:23,430 --> 01:40:15,840
in the zone

2219
01:40:25,109 --> 01:40:23,440
then i start having visions i probably

2220
01:40:27,830 --> 01:40:25,119
will not have a vision because i'm too

2221
01:40:29,750 --> 01:40:27,840
focused in our conversation sure sure so

2222
01:40:32,629 --> 01:40:29,760
i will not be in a

2223
01:40:34,950 --> 01:40:32,639
meditative state which is that's when i

2224
01:40:39,189 --> 01:40:34,960
start getting the vision while my pineal

2225
01:40:41,669 --> 01:40:39,199
gland is activated have you um uh been

2226
01:40:42,550 --> 01:40:41,679
recording you're in the studio

2227
01:40:45,109 --> 01:40:42,560
um

2228
01:40:46,870 --> 01:40:45,119
i'm certain this probably happens live

2229
01:40:48,550 --> 01:40:46,880
too but you're in the studio you lay

2230
01:40:51,990 --> 01:40:48,560
down a bass track

2231
01:40:54,629 --> 01:40:52,000
and you come out of uh you know uh

2232
01:40:56,709 --> 01:40:54,639
somebody hit stop on the record button

2233
01:40:58,470 --> 01:40:56,719
and then you go whoa

2234
01:41:00,149 --> 01:40:58,480
and you don't remember what you just

2235
01:41:02,229 --> 01:41:00,159
played

2236
01:41:05,350 --> 01:41:02,239
uh well

2237
01:41:06,310 --> 01:41:05,360
to be in the zone i am more in the zone

2238
01:41:08,470 --> 01:41:06,320
live

2239
01:41:10,550 --> 01:41:08,480
because in the studio it's very clinical

2240
01:41:11,510 --> 01:41:10,560
a lot of most of most of the recordings

2241
01:41:13,510 --> 01:41:11,520
i do

2242
01:41:14,550 --> 01:41:13,520
is to come in and play the bass on a

2243
01:41:16,629 --> 01:41:14,560
track

2244
01:41:18,550 --> 01:41:16,639
not necessarily the whole band at the

2245
01:41:20,790 --> 01:41:18,560
same time playing

2246
01:41:21,990 --> 01:41:20,800
to me that's where the zone happens

2247
01:41:23,830 --> 01:41:22,000
everybody's

2248
01:41:26,149 --> 01:41:23,840
the collective consciousness of all the

2249
01:41:28,310 --> 01:41:26,159
musicians in one room

2250
01:41:30,070 --> 01:41:28,320
it and and especially if you if you're

2251
01:41:32,629 --> 01:41:30,080
not isolated

2252
01:41:35,830 --> 01:41:32,639
and you're actually in the same room

2253
01:41:36,950 --> 01:41:35,840
and the energy field expands so you can

2254
01:41:39,910 --> 01:41:36,960
actually

2255
01:41:40,950 --> 01:41:39,920
cross-fade each other's energy in the

2256
01:41:43,270 --> 01:41:40,960
room

2257
01:41:44,629 --> 01:41:43,280
have you watched the beatles get back i

2258
01:41:47,750 --> 01:41:44,639
have

2259
01:41:49,030 --> 01:41:47,760
you notice how close they sat when they

2260
01:41:51,990 --> 01:41:49,040
were working on the screen it wasn't

2261
01:41:53,830 --> 01:41:52,000
this close that close yeah

2262
01:41:55,669 --> 01:41:53,840
because what they're doing i mean they

2263
01:41:57,910 --> 01:41:55,679
probably were not aware maybe they were

2264
01:41:59,990 --> 01:41:57,920
because you know they had just come from

2265
01:42:02,470 --> 01:42:00,000
being with a maharishi learning about

2266
01:42:04,550 --> 01:42:02,480
transcendental meditation an energy

2267
01:42:07,270 --> 01:42:04,560
field

2268
01:42:09,430 --> 01:42:07,280
so they might have been aware okay well

2269
01:42:13,669 --> 01:42:09,440
let's do that let's rehearse closer as a

2270
01:42:14,470 --> 01:42:13,679
cluster so our energy fields intersect

2271
01:42:17,669 --> 01:42:14,480
you know

2272
01:42:22,470 --> 01:42:17,679
and so maybe maybe maybe not i don't

2273
01:42:24,390 --> 01:42:22,480
know but that that that's when i sense

2274
01:42:27,350 --> 01:42:24,400
when i get in the zone because now i'm

2275
01:42:28,629 --> 01:42:27,360
reading everybody i'm feeling everybody

2276
01:42:30,550 --> 01:42:28,639
right so

2277
01:42:34,950 --> 01:42:30,560
the closest thing

2278
01:42:36,070 --> 01:42:34,960
would be live outside of the studio

2279
01:42:38,629 --> 01:42:36,080
when

2280
01:42:41,590 --> 01:42:38,639
and this and this and this is what what

2281
01:42:44,310 --> 01:42:41,600
i experienced it's not just the band

2282
01:42:46,470 --> 01:42:44,320
it's the audience

2283
01:42:49,750 --> 01:42:46,480
because when you go to a concert people

2284
01:42:50,629 --> 01:42:49,760
are standing right next to each other

2285
01:42:53,590 --> 01:42:50,639
they

2286
01:42:56,310 --> 01:42:53,600
their their energy fields are

2287
01:43:00,149 --> 01:42:56,320
crossfading they're intersecting

2288
01:43:02,470 --> 01:43:00,159
in the audience to create one massive

2289
01:43:05,510 --> 01:43:02,480
energy field

2290
01:43:08,870 --> 01:43:05,520
it's like the independent cells that all

2291
01:43:12,550 --> 01:43:08,880
of a sudden become one big transformer

2292
01:43:15,030 --> 01:43:12,560
can i ask yeah i wanna okay so uh

2293
01:43:17,669 --> 01:43:15,040
they're staying on this there's the

2294
01:43:20,070 --> 01:43:17,679
element of obviously getting together in

2295
01:43:23,830 --> 01:43:20,080
the studio and playing live

2296
01:43:25,430 --> 01:43:23,840
and you uh have presented you know this

2297
01:43:27,109 --> 01:43:25,440
like a coveted thing

2298
01:43:29,990 --> 01:43:27,119
um

2299
01:43:31,910 --> 01:43:30,000
a string of videos lately that i was

2300
01:43:35,109 --> 01:43:31,920
totally blown away with and that was

2301
01:43:36,790 --> 01:43:35,119
with gabriella gunakova and you guys are

2302
01:43:39,030 --> 01:43:36,800
all uh

2303
01:43:42,790 --> 01:43:39,040
in different studios together

2304
01:43:45,669 --> 01:43:42,800
um but some of the most dynamic playing

2305
01:43:47,590 --> 01:43:45,679
um i have ever heard where you guys

2306
01:43:49,590 --> 01:43:47,600
have found a way

2307
01:43:51,109 --> 01:43:49,600
to get that collective consciousness

2308
01:43:54,390 --> 01:43:51,119
together whether it's with the internet

2309
01:43:56,790 --> 01:43:54,400
or not um but but those are

2310
01:43:59,270 --> 01:43:56,800
just incredible songs and and

2311
01:44:01,030 --> 01:43:59,280
musicianship but you guys are not in the

2312
01:44:03,030 --> 01:44:01,040
same room together

2313
01:44:04,390 --> 01:44:03,040
yeah uh i'm glad you brought it up

2314
01:44:06,470 --> 01:44:04,400
because

2315
01:44:09,030 --> 01:44:06,480
i was having a conversation on skype

2316
01:44:10,550 --> 01:44:09,040
with gabriella a couple of days ago we

2317
01:44:12,870 --> 01:44:10,560
were talking about this

2318
01:44:15,350 --> 01:44:12,880
and i mentioned to her i've had this

2319
01:44:17,830 --> 01:44:15,360
conversation with her the reason why i

2320
01:44:19,189 --> 01:44:17,840
started to collaborate with her

2321
01:44:22,870 --> 01:44:19,199
is because

2322
01:44:25,189 --> 01:44:22,880
i started to hear in her voice

2323
01:44:26,229 --> 01:44:25,199
frequencies

2324
01:44:28,149 --> 01:44:26,239
that

2325
01:44:31,590 --> 01:44:28,159
singers such as

2326
01:44:34,390 --> 01:44:31,600
irani you know dio and coverdale

2327
01:44:36,149 --> 01:44:34,400
that i could hear that in their voices

2328
01:44:38,470 --> 01:44:36,159
so what i was telling

2329
01:44:39,990 --> 01:44:38,480
i was telling gabriella is like i can

2330
01:44:42,470 --> 01:44:40,000
hear them

2331
01:44:45,510 --> 01:44:42,480
in your singing

2332
01:44:48,629 --> 01:44:45,520
this is why i said why i'm a fan of you

2333
01:44:50,470 --> 01:44:48,639
because you know once once you lose

2334
01:44:53,910 --> 01:44:50,480
something

2335
01:44:55,990 --> 01:44:53,920
let's say me losing ronnie and losing

2336
01:44:58,229 --> 01:44:56,000
going on stage with ronnie

2337
01:44:59,910 --> 01:44:58,239
i spent the rest of my life looking for

2338
01:45:03,270 --> 01:44:59,920
that right

2339
01:45:07,109 --> 01:45:03,280
right right how how special is she i

2340
01:45:10,390 --> 01:45:07,119
mean she's mind-blowingly great and the

2341
01:45:13,350 --> 01:45:10,400
way that she sounds her tone

2342
01:45:14,310 --> 01:45:13,360
i i can tell that she would sound like

2343
01:45:17,030 --> 01:45:14,320
that

2344
01:45:18,390 --> 01:45:17,040
just singing sitting next to you she's

2345
01:45:20,149 --> 01:45:18,400
got that gift

2346
01:45:21,430 --> 01:45:20,159
yeah i i don't know how much you know

2347
01:45:24,310 --> 01:45:21,440
about her

2348
01:45:26,709 --> 01:45:24,320
uh she started out uh she's she's from

2349
01:45:28,950 --> 01:45:26,719
the czech republic so she was you know

2350
01:45:31,189 --> 01:45:28,960
she did the uh the american idol version

2351
01:45:32,470 --> 01:45:31,199
of the secret you know of that

2352
01:45:36,310 --> 01:45:32,480
uh

2353
01:45:38,310 --> 01:45:36,320
show yeah yeah oh yeah but i was

2354
01:45:42,149 --> 01:45:38,320
thinking because it's it's

2355
01:45:44,550 --> 01:45:42,159
slovakia yes it's it it split back into

2356
01:45:47,910 --> 01:45:44,560
czech republic and slovakia but the show

2357
01:45:50,229 --> 01:45:47,920
is basically about both countries

2358
01:45:52,709 --> 01:45:50,239
is the slovakia and sheikh

2359
01:45:56,229 --> 01:45:54,709
okay so that's what i was thinking how

2360
01:45:58,950 --> 01:45:56,239
am i going to how am i going to explain

2361
01:46:03,030 --> 01:45:58,960
this you know and then she was in a

2362
01:46:05,189 --> 01:46:03,040
eurovision she was a finalist in that so

2363
01:46:08,550 --> 01:46:05,199
you know she's had experience she's a

2364
01:46:10,790 --> 01:46:08,560
rocker but she can sing anything uh what

2365
01:46:13,270 --> 01:46:10,800
really her turning point was working

2366
01:46:15,990 --> 01:46:13,280
with somebody you might know name is ken

2367
01:46:19,189 --> 01:46:16,000
templin yeah he's an amazing coach yes

2368
01:46:21,270 --> 01:46:19,199
yeah he he's amazing he really is and

2369
01:46:24,470 --> 01:46:21,280
and he's the one who produced her tracks

2370
01:46:26,550 --> 01:46:24,480
and took care of everything and uh

2371
01:46:28,709 --> 01:46:26,560
yeah she works closely with him and then

2372
01:46:31,109 --> 01:46:28,719
her working with him is was what took

2373
01:46:32,629 --> 01:46:31,119
her singing to the next level you know

2374
01:46:35,270 --> 01:46:32,639
she's been with the trans-siberian

2375
01:46:36,629 --> 01:46:35,280
orchestra right up into this this this

2376
01:46:37,990 --> 01:46:36,639
colvin you know

2377
01:46:41,270 --> 01:46:38,000
and uh

2378
01:46:43,270 --> 01:46:41,280
yeah so she's very driven very focused

2379
01:46:52,070 --> 01:46:43,280
and

2380
01:46:54,629 --> 01:46:52,080
into it just like just like the great

2381
01:46:55,910 --> 01:46:54,639
ones that i that i play with

2382
01:46:59,910 --> 01:46:55,920
how um

2383
01:47:00,790 --> 01:46:59,920
you've managed to uh also do two things

2384
01:47:01,990 --> 01:47:00,800
uh

2385
01:47:04,310 --> 01:47:02,000
which is

2386
01:47:05,430 --> 01:47:04,320
play with the greatest guitar players

2387
01:47:07,669 --> 01:47:05,440
period

2388
01:47:10,149 --> 01:47:07,679
uh band after band after band after band

2389
01:47:12,310 --> 01:47:10,159
all the way through to this day

2390
01:47:13,990 --> 01:47:12,320
and also the

2391
01:47:15,750 --> 01:47:14,000
some of the greatest singers you know

2392
01:47:16,709 --> 01:47:15,760
and when you look at

2393
01:47:17,750 --> 01:47:16,719
uh

2394
01:47:21,830 --> 01:47:17,760
the

2395
01:47:23,669 --> 01:47:21,840
uh bridge between like a jeff tate all

2396
01:47:25,510 --> 01:47:23,679
the way back to ozzie and what you did

2397
01:47:28,629 --> 01:47:25,520
between all of that

2398
01:47:30,790 --> 01:47:28,639
does that help elevate you as a musician

2399
01:47:33,910 --> 01:47:30,800
and a person to work with these

2400
01:47:36,470 --> 01:47:33,920
monster musicians and

2401
01:47:38,070 --> 01:47:36,480
and and how has that helped you elevate

2402
01:47:40,390 --> 01:47:38,080
your game

2403
01:47:42,790 --> 01:47:40,400
oh i always look for

2404
01:47:45,270 --> 01:47:42,800
musicians better than i am

2405
01:47:46,470 --> 01:47:45,280
to play uh to play with

2406
01:47:50,310 --> 01:47:46,480
uh

2407
01:47:53,270 --> 01:47:50,320
i i learned so much from all from from

2408
01:47:54,950 --> 01:47:53,280
that i mean i i thrive on that

2409
01:47:56,870 --> 01:47:54,960
you know i want i want musicians that

2410
01:47:59,109 --> 01:47:56,880
will kick my ass

2411
01:48:01,750 --> 01:47:59,119
and bring their a game

2412
01:48:04,310 --> 01:48:01,760
i bring my a game you know going going

2413
01:48:06,629 --> 01:48:04,320
back to to get back that beatles

2414
01:48:09,430 --> 01:48:06,639
documentary to me it was

2415
01:48:12,629 --> 01:48:09,440
i i learned so much about it about

2416
01:48:13,990 --> 01:48:12,639
humanity here you have like one one you

2417
01:48:15,910 --> 01:48:14,000
know just about the greatest most

2418
01:48:16,790 --> 01:48:15,920
successful influential rock band in the

2419
01:48:18,950 --> 01:48:16,800
world

2420
01:48:20,790 --> 01:48:18,960
and what i noticed is as long as soon as

2421
01:48:22,470 --> 01:48:20,800
they lost

2422
01:48:24,310 --> 01:48:22,480
brian epstein

2423
01:48:25,910 --> 01:48:24,320
they were adrift

2424
01:48:29,189 --> 01:48:25,920
then they have a direction they were

2425
01:48:33,109 --> 01:48:29,199
going in different directions but not a

2426
01:48:35,350 --> 01:48:33,119
collective direction you know and

2427
01:48:37,669 --> 01:48:35,360
in episode one where they're trying to

2428
01:48:39,830 --> 01:48:37,679
get it together in this film studio and

2429
01:48:41,350 --> 01:48:39,840
the place is all you know it's too big

2430
01:48:42,629 --> 01:48:41,360
that they're not comfortable people

2431
01:48:45,669 --> 01:48:42,639
walking in

2432
01:48:48,149 --> 01:48:45,679
in and out and then they move to

2433
01:48:49,750 --> 01:48:48,159
to apple studios you know the apple

2434
01:48:51,430 --> 01:48:49,760
building they put a studio down there

2435
01:48:53,750 --> 01:48:51,440
they brought them some new gear so it

2436
01:48:55,270 --> 01:48:53,760
wasn't really necessarily abbey road the

2437
01:48:57,189 --> 01:48:55,280
studio abbey road

2438
01:48:59,669 --> 01:48:57,199
but it was in their comfort zone because

2439
01:49:03,669 --> 01:48:59,679
now they're in a recording studio

2440
01:49:06,229 --> 01:49:03,679
and then and then billy preston walks in

2441
01:49:08,310 --> 01:49:06,239
now it sounds like the beatles

2442
01:49:09,669 --> 01:49:08,320
because they got somebody to impress in

2443
01:49:11,270 --> 01:49:09,679
that room

2444
01:49:13,510 --> 01:49:11,280
billy preston

2445
01:49:15,270 --> 01:49:13,520
that everybody brings their a game you

2446
01:49:17,109 --> 01:49:15,280
know and prior to watching the

2447
01:49:20,149 --> 01:49:17,119
documentary i had

2448
01:49:22,310 --> 01:49:20,159
heard interviews and articles about when

2449
01:49:23,910 --> 01:49:22,320
eric clapton showed up

2450
01:49:27,189 --> 01:49:23,920
for the uh

2451
01:49:29,189 --> 01:49:27,199
my guy my while my guitar gently weeps

2452
01:49:31,030 --> 01:49:29,199
session that he play guitar that the

2453
01:49:33,270 --> 01:49:31,040
same thing happened

2454
01:49:34,709 --> 01:49:33,280
they started behaving

2455
01:49:36,149 --> 01:49:34,719
you know because

2456
01:49:38,390 --> 01:49:36,159
you know there's a lot of footage of

2457
01:49:40,390 --> 01:49:38,400
them just like

2458
01:49:41,350 --> 01:49:40,400
messing around maybe that's part of

2459
01:49:45,030 --> 01:49:41,360
their

2460
01:49:46,709 --> 01:49:45,040
you know messing around with all these

2461
01:49:49,430 --> 01:49:46,719
different songs they're doing like

2462
01:49:51,510 --> 01:49:49,440
different versions of like love me do

2463
01:49:53,189 --> 01:49:51,520
come on you you recorded that like 10

2464
01:49:54,790 --> 01:49:53,199
years ago you know and you're doing like

2465
01:49:56,470 --> 01:49:54,800
different persons well

2466
01:49:57,430 --> 01:49:56,480
you know you're talking about

2467
01:50:01,030 --> 01:49:57,440
uh

2468
01:50:01,910 --> 01:50:01,040
that documentary but i watched

2469
01:50:03,350 --> 01:50:01,920
uh

2470
01:50:05,189 --> 01:50:03,360
maybe you've seen it there's a

2471
01:50:08,470 --> 01:50:05,199
documentary out there

2472
01:50:11,030 --> 01:50:08,480
of you up at coverdale's house

2473
01:50:14,550 --> 01:50:11,040
and everybody getting together to start

2474
01:50:16,550 --> 01:50:14,560
a session there at the the studio and

2475
01:50:19,030 --> 01:50:16,560
was that slip of the tongue

2476
01:50:20,229 --> 01:50:19,040
yeah okay and uh

2477
01:50:22,629 --> 01:50:20,239
um

2478
01:50:24,629 --> 01:50:22,639
you guys all get together

2479
01:50:26,629 --> 01:50:24,639
and slowly

2480
01:50:29,030 --> 01:50:26,639
um you know you're saying hello and

2481
01:50:32,310 --> 01:50:29,040
there's a lot of footage of behind the

2482
01:50:35,830 --> 01:50:32,320
scenes but then it was time to get down

2483
01:50:37,430 --> 01:50:35,840
and what allowed you guys to get that

2484
01:50:38,390 --> 01:50:37,440
focus that you're talking about with the

2485
01:50:40,950 --> 01:50:38,400
beatles

2486
01:50:42,550 --> 01:50:40,960
because that album has not only stood

2487
01:50:46,470 --> 01:50:42,560
the test of time

2488
01:50:47,430 --> 01:50:46,480
but you guys got in the zone like for

2489
01:50:48,790 --> 01:50:47,440
real

2490
01:50:52,550 --> 01:50:48,800
and it was all captured in that

2491
01:50:55,350 --> 01:50:52,560
documentary what was that what was that

2492
01:50:57,430 --> 01:50:55,360
that incubator that that allowed that to

2493
01:51:01,109 --> 01:50:57,440
happen

2494
01:51:02,149 --> 01:51:01,119
you know i watched some of the footage

2495
01:51:05,830 --> 01:51:02,159
and

2496
01:51:08,310 --> 01:51:05,840
what reminded me it's

2497
01:51:10,950 --> 01:51:08,320
when we started rehearsing doing the

2498
01:51:13,750 --> 01:51:10,960
pre-production for that record uh vivian

2499
01:51:15,990 --> 01:51:13,760
campbell was still in the band

2500
01:51:17,990 --> 01:51:16,000
and one day

2501
01:51:21,510 --> 01:51:18,000
he was gone

2502
01:51:23,990 --> 01:51:21,520
you know i knew it was coming uh

2503
01:51:26,950 --> 01:51:24,000
i uh

2504
01:51:29,510 --> 01:51:26,960
i i got together with certain people

2505
01:51:32,229 --> 01:51:29,520
from the organization and gave my

2506
01:51:34,629 --> 01:51:33,430
and

2507
01:51:37,830 --> 01:51:34,639
he goes you know

2508
01:51:39,669 --> 01:51:37,840
we had a really tight

2509
01:51:41,669 --> 01:51:39,679
we were in the zone on that tour the

2510
01:51:42,629 --> 01:51:41,679
1987 tour

2511
01:51:44,470 --> 01:51:42,639
and

2512
01:51:46,950 --> 01:51:44,480
sometimes you know you

2513
01:51:50,629 --> 01:51:46,960
you don't want to mess with that

2514
01:51:53,750 --> 01:51:50,639
chemistry chemistry that formula

2515
01:51:55,669 --> 01:51:53,760
um because that creates uncertainty

2516
01:51:57,270 --> 01:51:55,679
once that happens

2517
01:51:59,750 --> 01:51:57,280
total uncertainty because you just don't

2518
01:52:02,470 --> 01:51:59,760
know what it's going to be like

2519
01:52:03,830 --> 01:52:02,480
with the next musician coming in you

2520
01:52:07,189 --> 01:52:03,840
just don't know

2521
01:52:09,430 --> 01:52:07,199
uh it might be even better

2522
01:52:11,189 --> 01:52:09,440
or different you know i don't know

2523
01:52:13,430 --> 01:52:11,199
you know what

2524
01:52:15,669 --> 01:52:13,440
let me be honest about this

2525
01:52:17,350 --> 01:52:15,679
and i rarely ever talk about this i

2526
01:52:19,270 --> 01:52:17,360
think this might be the second time that

2527
01:52:21,430 --> 01:52:19,280
i talk about this first time being with

2528
01:52:22,709 --> 01:52:21,440
my wife

2529
01:52:24,790 --> 01:52:22,719
okay

2530
01:52:27,270 --> 01:52:24,800
second time here with you and the

2531
01:52:29,669 --> 01:52:27,280
listeners uh

2532
01:52:31,589 --> 01:52:29,679
it's not that it was better with steve

2533
01:52:33,750 --> 01:52:31,599
bye

2534
01:52:35,830 --> 01:52:33,760
and well let's put it this way

2535
01:52:38,229 --> 01:52:35,840
it was different

2536
01:52:40,790 --> 01:52:38,239
it was very different when steve i came

2537
01:52:43,430 --> 01:52:40,800
into the band he wasn't trying steve but

2538
01:52:45,510 --> 01:52:43,440
steve i was just being himself

2539
01:52:47,430 --> 01:52:45,520
you know and he brought that steve vibe

2540
01:52:49,830 --> 01:52:47,440
element to it

2541
01:52:52,629 --> 01:52:49,840
it was different i loved playing with

2542
01:52:56,149 --> 01:52:52,639
steve steve kicked my ass

2543
01:52:58,950 --> 01:52:56,159
i asked him to please please kick my ass

2544
01:53:01,669 --> 01:52:58,960
and i spent a lot of time with him i uh

2545
01:53:03,589 --> 01:53:01,679
i am fascinated by the whole world of

2546
01:53:04,790 --> 01:53:03,599
frank zappa and where she was part of

2547
01:53:07,030 --> 01:53:04,800
that family

2548
01:53:09,189 --> 01:53:07,040
and so he was a constant source of

2549
01:53:11,350 --> 01:53:09,199
information regarding that

2550
01:53:13,270 --> 01:53:11,360
and i learned so much from steve but i

2551
01:53:15,189 --> 01:53:13,280
was completely

2552
01:53:16,709 --> 01:53:15,199
inspired by him

2553
01:53:19,030 --> 01:53:16,719
you know but it was a very different

2554
01:53:21,830 --> 01:53:19,040
band it was not it was not exactly the

2555
01:53:23,750 --> 01:53:21,840
same band and i'm glad it was steve if

2556
01:53:27,669 --> 01:53:23,760
vivian could not be there i'm glad that

2557
01:53:30,229 --> 01:53:27,679
steve was the one that did it and uh

2558
01:53:32,229 --> 01:53:30,239
the uh

2559
01:53:34,470 --> 01:53:32,239
the way that

2560
01:53:37,910 --> 01:53:34,480
people react today

2561
01:53:41,430 --> 01:53:37,920
to those songs on that record

2562
01:53:44,790 --> 01:53:41,440
where they have become not only a staple

2563
01:53:47,270 --> 01:53:44,800
but they are part of rock and roll the

2564
01:53:48,550 --> 01:53:47,280
songs have stood the test of time not

2565
01:53:50,709 --> 01:53:48,560
every band

2566
01:53:52,629 --> 01:53:50,719
gets to have that

2567
01:53:55,350 --> 01:53:52,639
but what do you do when you're driving

2568
01:53:58,229 --> 01:53:55,360
down the road and and and one of those

2569
01:54:02,709 --> 01:53:58,239
songs comes on the radio uh what what's

2570
01:54:06,709 --> 01:54:04,149
wow

2571
01:54:10,709 --> 01:54:06,719
i don't listen to the radio on the car i

2572
01:54:16,870 --> 01:54:12,070
while you're driving

2573
01:54:21,990 --> 01:54:19,669
but but but seriously

2574
01:54:24,709 --> 01:54:22,000
do you get the same feeling from from

2575
01:54:27,990 --> 01:54:24,719
those songs that that everybody else

2576
01:54:30,550 --> 01:54:28,000
does today i mean it's it it is

2577
01:54:32,229 --> 01:54:30,560
it is something that gets turned up

2578
01:54:35,270 --> 01:54:32,239
every single time

2579
01:54:36,790 --> 01:54:35,280
and and and people stop and listen

2580
01:54:38,390 --> 01:54:36,800
you know and there's an emotion that is

2581
01:54:40,950 --> 01:54:38,400
connected there do you get that same

2582
01:54:43,669 --> 01:54:40,960
feeling yeah i it was it was a record

2583
01:54:45,669 --> 01:54:43,679
out of time it was ahead of its time

2584
01:54:47,830 --> 01:54:45,679
when it was released because

2585
01:54:49,750 --> 01:54:47,840
steve brought in steve i brought in this

2586
01:54:52,629 --> 01:54:49,760
this pragee

2587
01:54:54,229 --> 01:54:52,639
essence to the music because of

2588
01:54:55,270 --> 01:54:54,239
that's that's steve

2589
01:54:56,310 --> 01:54:55,280
you know

2590
01:54:57,189 --> 01:54:56,320
and

2591
01:54:59,669 --> 01:54:57,199
so

2592
01:55:00,870 --> 01:54:59,679
finally that record has 30 years later

2593
01:55:02,229 --> 01:55:00,880
has caught up

2594
01:55:05,109 --> 01:55:02,239
with time

2595
01:55:07,270 --> 01:55:05,119
so it's timely now uh so 30 years ago it

2596
01:55:09,589 --> 01:55:07,280
was kind of like wow this doesn't sound

2597
01:55:11,669 --> 01:55:09,599
like white snake what the hell is this

2598
01:55:14,550 --> 01:55:11,679
well and and you guys did some stuff

2599
01:55:15,669 --> 01:55:14,560
with the gabriella right and and went

2600
01:55:17,910 --> 01:55:15,679
back

2601
01:55:20,229 --> 01:55:17,920
and and what was that like did she bring

2602
01:55:22,390 --> 01:55:20,239
the same emotion she did for me by the

2603
01:55:23,990 --> 01:55:22,400
way did she bring the same emotion that

2604
01:55:27,910 --> 01:55:24,000
coverdale did

2605
01:55:33,830 --> 01:55:31,270
and and this is this is

2606
01:55:36,709 --> 01:55:33,840
this is my perception from play i i play

2607
01:55:39,510 --> 01:55:36,719
with a lot of female artists before not

2608
01:55:41,270 --> 01:55:39,520
just male artists only you know

2609
01:55:42,390 --> 01:55:41,280
and

2610
01:55:44,870 --> 01:55:42,400
like

2611
01:55:46,950 --> 01:55:44,880
if i hear of course if you hear let's

2612
01:55:50,149 --> 01:55:46,960
say a female guitar player and a male

2613
01:55:53,589 --> 01:55:50,159
guitar player it's kind of hard to tell

2614
01:55:54,950 --> 01:55:53,599
the the the gender of the musician

2615
01:55:56,550 --> 01:55:54,960
because they're playing guitar they're

2616
01:55:58,550 --> 01:55:56,560
playing an instrument that

2617
01:56:00,790 --> 01:55:58,560
the fingers are gonna you know the

2618
01:56:03,430 --> 01:56:00,800
strings if you play uh you know high e

2619
01:56:05,350 --> 01:56:03,440
high a female playing a high e or male

2620
01:56:07,830 --> 01:56:05,360
playing a high e is going to sound

2621
01:56:09,430 --> 01:56:07,840
relatively yeah if you can't see if you

2622
01:56:10,229 --> 01:56:09,440
can't see who's playing you would never

2623
01:56:12,629 --> 01:56:10,239
know

2624
01:56:16,470 --> 01:56:12,639
exactly but singers

2625
01:56:18,310 --> 01:56:16,480
that's their instrument the voices right

2626
01:56:19,669 --> 01:56:18,320
and there's going to be a certain

2627
01:56:22,709 --> 01:56:19,679
element

2628
01:56:24,070 --> 01:56:22,719
frequency wise resonance that a female

2629
01:56:26,830 --> 01:56:24,080
is going to have

2630
01:56:30,070 --> 01:56:26,840
and vice versa that males do and don't

2631
01:56:32,310 --> 01:56:30,080
have it's a completely different uh

2632
01:56:34,709 --> 01:56:32,320
instrument

2633
01:56:37,430 --> 01:56:34,719
the um uh

2634
01:56:40,070 --> 01:56:37,440
i wanted to ask you this directly and

2635
01:56:40,950 --> 01:56:40,080
we'll come back uh after the break about

2636
01:56:43,830 --> 01:56:40,960
this

2637
01:56:46,149 --> 01:56:43,840
but there's another thing that

2638
01:56:47,990 --> 01:56:46,159
that i want to recognize we just had

2639
01:56:51,510 --> 01:56:48,000
randy's birthday

2640
01:56:52,790 --> 01:56:51,520
and he would have been 65 right yeah

2641
01:56:54,950 --> 01:56:52,800
this year

2642
01:56:57,030 --> 01:56:54,960
and

2643
01:56:59,910 --> 01:56:57,040
although you know dying at the age of of

2644
01:57:01,589 --> 01:56:59,920
25 and and you were there uh for that

2645
01:57:05,109 --> 01:57:01,599
that tragic day

2646
01:57:08,229 --> 01:57:05,119
but his legacy and his memory

2647
01:57:11,270 --> 01:57:08,239
obviously will never go away his effect

2648
01:57:13,270 --> 01:57:11,280
on generations not just you and i back

2649
01:57:14,390 --> 01:57:13,280
in 1981

2650
01:57:16,390 --> 01:57:14,400
right but

2651
01:57:17,510 --> 01:57:16,400
guitar players young guitar players

2652
01:57:19,750 --> 01:57:17,520
today

2653
01:57:21,430 --> 01:57:19,760
recognize his talent

2654
01:57:22,790 --> 01:57:21,440
how does that make you feel that that

2655
01:57:25,430 --> 01:57:22,800
his memory

2656
01:57:27,189 --> 01:57:25,440
is is still here

2657
01:57:30,470 --> 01:57:27,199
oh i mean i

2658
01:57:33,430 --> 01:57:30,480
i have different per pers you know

2659
01:57:37,350 --> 01:57:33,440
angles to my perception about that

2660
01:57:39,510 --> 01:57:37,360
uh as a bandmate as a friend

2661
01:57:41,350 --> 01:57:39,520
uh

2662
01:57:43,189 --> 01:57:41,360
of course you want you know the people

2663
01:57:45,589 --> 01:57:43,199
that you love your your musical family

2664
01:57:47,350 --> 01:57:45,599
to be recognized and when when you're

2665
01:57:48,870 --> 01:57:47,360
talking about somebody like randy rhodes

2666
01:57:51,189 --> 01:57:48,880
who's made such

2667
01:57:52,790 --> 01:57:51,199
incredible contributions

2668
01:57:54,950 --> 01:57:52,800
to music

2669
01:57:57,270 --> 01:57:54,960
uh you know not just

2670
01:57:58,470 --> 01:57:57,280
as a musician a composer but also as a

2671
01:58:00,470 --> 01:57:58,480
human being

2672
01:58:02,070 --> 01:58:00,480
you know to be recognized recognized to

2673
01:58:04,870 --> 01:58:02,080
be inducted into the hall of fame this

2674
01:58:06,790 --> 01:58:04,880
year yes right now

2675
01:58:09,430 --> 01:58:06,800
it doesn't get better than that i mean

2676
01:58:12,550 --> 01:58:09,440
in the eyes of the of the industry you

2677
01:58:14,070 --> 01:58:12,560
know and and and the fans you know and

2678
01:58:16,070 --> 01:58:14,080
uh

2679
01:58:18,830 --> 01:58:16,080
but see

2680
01:58:23,270 --> 01:58:20,790
randy

2681
01:58:25,270 --> 01:58:23,280
you know having been there all of us all

2682
01:58:27,510 --> 01:58:25,280
of us that were part of that family at

2683
01:58:30,550 --> 01:58:27,520
that time we have the same love for

2684
01:58:33,189 --> 01:58:30,560
randy whether whether a million people

2685
01:58:35,750 --> 01:58:33,199
think of him or it's just us

2686
01:58:37,189 --> 01:58:35,760
it doesn't change anything i i could not

2687
01:58:40,629 --> 01:58:37,199
respect

2688
01:58:43,350 --> 01:58:40,639
and love randy more than i can

2689
01:58:45,510 --> 01:58:43,360
if one person is only aware of randy or

2690
01:58:46,709 --> 01:58:45,520
millions of fans are aware of randy

2691
01:58:49,830 --> 01:58:46,719
because it's

2692
01:58:52,950 --> 01:58:49,840
my relationship with randy goes beyond

2693
01:58:56,390 --> 01:58:52,960
the people that were not part of that

2694
01:59:00,070 --> 01:58:56,400
circle a very very small circle and and

2695
01:59:00,950 --> 01:59:00,080
and part of that circle uh of course is

2696
01:59:02,550 --> 01:59:00,960
uh

2697
01:59:03,430 --> 01:59:02,560
kevin kevin dubrow

2698
01:59:08,709 --> 01:59:03,440
and

2699
01:59:12,149 --> 01:59:08,719
you know those three

2700
01:59:13,830 --> 01:59:12,159
are are not with us anymore and and it's

2701
01:59:14,870 --> 01:59:13,840
a rough thing to talk about but it's

2702
01:59:16,870 --> 01:59:14,880
also

2703
01:59:18,550 --> 01:59:16,880
a part of life

2704
01:59:21,189 --> 01:59:18,560
um

2705
01:59:23,830 --> 01:59:21,199
the the odds of that happening

2706
01:59:26,390 --> 01:59:23,840
of you know the three out of the four

2707
01:59:29,189 --> 01:59:26,400
and quiet riot no longer with us

2708
01:59:32,709 --> 01:59:29,199
it feels strange to me and and i miss

2709
01:59:35,510 --> 01:59:32,719
them all uh greatly

2710
01:59:37,830 --> 01:59:35,520
yeah and uh you know with with uh with

2711
01:59:39,510 --> 01:59:37,840
kevin and frankie of course you know our

2712
01:59:41,830 --> 01:59:39,520
focus is about

2713
01:59:43,750 --> 01:59:41,840
them being members of quiet riot but but

2714
01:59:45,510 --> 01:59:43,760
with randy since i got to play with him

2715
01:59:46,870 --> 01:59:45,520
in both choir riot

2716
01:59:47,830 --> 01:59:46,880
and ozzy

2717
01:59:49,109 --> 01:59:47,840
and

2718
01:59:51,430 --> 01:59:49,119
you know i

2719
01:59:53,430 --> 01:59:51,440
of course you know randy is a founding

2720
01:59:55,510 --> 01:59:53,440
member of quiet riot

2721
01:59:58,550 --> 01:59:55,520
but what he did with ozzy is what got

2722
02:00:01,109 --> 01:59:58,560
him into the rock and roll hall of fame

2723
02:00:03,589 --> 02:00:01,119
yeah yeah no question about it uh

2724
02:00:05,270 --> 02:00:03,599
let's take our break right here this is

2725
02:00:08,470 --> 02:00:05,280
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2726
02:00:10,390 --> 02:00:08,480
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2727
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2786
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on the game changer radio network

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[Music]

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02:05:26,629 --> 02:05:24,719
welcome back fade to black i am your

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02:05:29,270 --> 02:05:26,639
host jimmy church tonight our guest is

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02:05:31,510 --> 02:05:29,280
rudy sarzo

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02:05:33,109 --> 02:05:31,520
tomorrow night is our eighth anniversary

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special event

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stay tuned for that

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02:05:40,870 --> 02:05:38,719
incredible night in it is the season and

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02:05:43,109 --> 02:05:40,880
our conversation tonight with uh rudy

2844
02:05:44,390 --> 02:05:43,119
has been very interesting and and rudy

2845
02:05:46,950 --> 02:05:44,400
check this out

2846
02:05:50,870 --> 02:05:46,960
every musician that i've had on this

2847
02:05:53,830 --> 02:05:50,880
show grand bonna dizzy reed uh

2848
02:05:56,470 --> 02:05:53,840
uh kurt james tracy g

2849
02:05:57,510 --> 02:05:56,480
uh jennifer batten uh

2850
02:06:03,510 --> 02:05:57,520
i ca

2851
02:06:05,830 --> 02:06:03,520
every single one has got a ufo sighting

2852
02:06:08,069 --> 02:06:05,840
they want to talk about jennifer batten

2853
02:06:10,550 --> 02:06:08,079
came on the show rudy she goes

2854
02:06:12,950 --> 02:06:10,560
i see black triangles all the time jimmy

2855
02:06:15,270 --> 02:06:12,960
i go to all the ufo conferences

2856
02:06:18,470 --> 02:06:15,280
and and uh

2857
02:06:19,510 --> 02:06:18,480
everybody have you seen a ufo

2858
02:06:20,790 --> 02:06:19,520
yeah

2859
02:06:22,390 --> 02:06:20,800
what happened

2860
02:06:25,750 --> 02:06:22,400
uh

2861
02:06:31,030 --> 02:06:25,760
it was 1982

2862
02:06:37,830 --> 02:06:35,350
not the banned ufo oh another bill okay

2863
02:06:39,270 --> 02:06:37,840
rudy's cracking jokes he'll be here all

2864
02:06:41,830 --> 02:06:39,280
day

2865
02:06:43,830 --> 02:06:41,840
tip the waitresses

2866
02:06:45,640 --> 02:06:43,840
ufo was the opening ban for ozzie and

2867
02:06:51,430 --> 02:06:45,650
the diary of the madmen tour

2868
02:06:51,440 --> 02:06:55,430
oh man

2869
02:06:59,270 --> 02:06:57,189
have you ever seen something strange in

2870
02:07:00,470 --> 02:06:59,280
the sky that you can't explain is that

2871
02:07:02,709 --> 02:07:00,480
is that better

2872
02:07:05,109 --> 02:07:02,719
you know it's uh

2873
02:07:07,669 --> 02:07:05,119
you know i just

2874
02:07:08,470 --> 02:07:07,679
i put it this way lately i

2875
02:07:09,430 --> 02:07:08,480
it's

2876
02:07:16,870 --> 02:07:09,440
i

2877
02:07:20,790 --> 02:07:18,149
how so

2878
02:07:23,510 --> 02:07:20,800
that's how i focus right focus and not

2879
02:07:26,390 --> 02:07:23,520
in what's material but what is energy

2880
02:07:31,669 --> 02:07:29,350
and i want to stay on this et ufo thing

2881
02:07:33,830 --> 02:07:31,679
for a second um

2882
02:07:36,709 --> 02:07:33,840
there's a lot of

2883
02:07:38,790 --> 02:07:36,719
a lot of media attention especially over

2884
02:07:41,189 --> 02:07:38,800
the last three or four years on the

2885
02:07:42,550 --> 02:07:41,199
subject of ufos and it's never been like

2886
02:07:45,990 --> 02:07:42,560
this before

2887
02:07:48,390 --> 02:07:46,000
uh we've got uh legislation going down

2888
02:07:51,189 --> 02:07:48,400
in the senate and congress and

2889
02:07:54,390 --> 02:07:51,199
and the department of defense and and

2890
02:07:57,430 --> 02:07:54,400
the media and science and physicists and

2891
02:08:00,550 --> 02:07:57,440
avi loeb from harvard uh

2892
02:08:01,990 --> 02:08:00,560
talking about et and contact and ufos

2893
02:08:03,750 --> 02:08:02,000
um

2894
02:08:06,550 --> 02:08:03,760
what do you make of that do you think

2895
02:08:09,589 --> 02:08:06,560
that we're we're at the moment of some

2896
02:08:12,790 --> 02:08:09,599
some crazy contact

2897
02:08:14,470 --> 02:08:12,800
uh my perception based on information

2898
02:08:16,550 --> 02:08:14,480
that i've gathered

2899
02:08:19,189 --> 02:08:16,560
uh

2900
02:08:20,470 --> 02:08:19,199
and and be enlightened by it

2901
02:08:22,950 --> 02:08:20,480
uh

2902
02:08:25,109 --> 02:08:22,960
i would say that the next

2903
02:08:26,790 --> 02:08:25,119
the next uh movement

2904
02:08:29,990 --> 02:08:26,800
it's not going to be material it's going

2905
02:08:32,390 --> 02:08:30,000
to be spiritual i'm talking about energy

2906
02:08:34,229 --> 02:08:32,400
it's not going to be tangible let's say

2907
02:08:35,910 --> 02:08:34,239
a big spaceship

2908
02:08:38,069 --> 02:08:35,920
with clatton

2909
02:08:40,229 --> 02:08:38,079
lands in you know in the middle of

2910
02:08:41,669 --> 02:08:40,239
downtown l.a you know the robot comes

2911
02:08:43,910 --> 02:08:41,679
out you know no it's not going to be

2912
02:08:46,229 --> 02:08:43,920
that that's my perception

2913
02:08:49,430 --> 02:08:46,239
the way i see it is

2914
02:08:53,510 --> 02:08:49,440
you know i to be honest with you

2915
02:08:55,430 --> 02:08:53,520
we don't belong in another planet

2916
02:08:57,669 --> 02:08:55,440
if we belong on another planet we should

2917
02:09:00,229 --> 02:08:57,679
be able to survive in that planet

2918
02:09:01,589 --> 02:09:00,239
without any spacesuit

2919
02:09:03,270 --> 02:09:01,599
anything like that

2920
02:09:06,069 --> 02:09:03,280
why are we interested in going to

2921
02:09:08,069 --> 02:09:06,079
another planet in this body when we can

2922
02:09:10,310 --> 02:09:08,079
actually travel

2923
02:09:12,550 --> 02:09:10,320
anywhere in the universe

2924
02:09:13,750 --> 02:09:12,560
beyond the universe the universe that we

2925
02:09:15,910 --> 02:09:13,760
create

2926
02:09:18,709 --> 02:09:15,920
in our minds

2927
02:09:19,910 --> 02:09:18,719
with with our own energy our own

2928
02:09:21,510 --> 02:09:19,920
consciousness

2929
02:09:23,270 --> 02:09:21,520
travel there

2930
02:09:26,709 --> 02:09:23,280
that's going to be a way better i mean

2931
02:09:28,629 --> 02:09:26,719
we will need a spacesuit to do that

2932
02:09:30,830 --> 02:09:28,639
i okay i'm going to take your i'm going

2933
02:09:34,229 --> 02:09:30,840
to i'm going to go back to some ancient

2934
02:09:35,750 --> 02:09:34,239
history uh you and i are in the studio

2935
02:09:38,470 --> 02:09:35,760
at your house

2936
02:09:40,229 --> 02:09:38,480
and we start talking about ufos

2937
02:09:44,310 --> 02:09:40,239
and in et

2938
02:09:47,350 --> 02:09:44,320
and at that time you had that crazy

2939
02:09:49,910 --> 02:09:47,360
video library remember the shelves that

2940
02:09:53,830 --> 02:09:49,920
were next to the console right

2941
02:09:55,270 --> 02:09:53,840
back when there was a thing called vhs

2942
02:09:57,109 --> 02:09:55,280
and you had that incredible video

2943
02:10:00,229 --> 02:09:57,119
library and you turned to me

2944
02:10:02,069 --> 02:10:00,239
i said so do you have any ufo videos and

2945
02:10:04,229 --> 02:10:02,079
you said

2946
02:10:06,229 --> 02:10:04,239
you need to watch this and you walked

2947
02:10:09,189 --> 02:10:06,239
over to the shelf and you pulled down

2948
02:10:12,149 --> 02:10:09,199
the movie species

2949
02:10:14,390 --> 02:10:12,159
and you handed it to me and you said

2950
02:10:15,990 --> 02:10:14,400
this is what you need to watch

2951
02:10:17,669 --> 02:10:16,000
do you remember that

2952
02:10:20,310 --> 02:10:17,679
yeah

2953
02:10:22,550 --> 02:10:20,320
why why did you pick that movie which by

2954
02:10:25,109 --> 02:10:22,560
the way freaked me out and changed my

2955
02:10:26,790 --> 02:10:25,119
life but that's another story why did

2956
02:10:28,470 --> 02:10:26,800
you why did you pick that particular

2957
02:10:30,310 --> 02:10:28,480
movie for me to watch

2958
02:10:32,229 --> 02:10:30,320
because they had a very good looking

2959
02:10:35,350 --> 02:10:32,239
blonde lady that was naked throughout

2960
02:10:37,230 --> 02:10:36,870
and i thought you needed that in your

2961
02:10:39,750 --> 02:10:37,240
life

2962
02:10:47,589 --> 02:10:39,760
[Laughter]

2963
02:10:53,270 --> 02:10:50,149
oh man

2964
02:10:55,189 --> 02:10:53,280
i actually met her at a uh

2965
02:10:57,589 --> 02:10:55,199
one of those comic cons

2966
02:11:00,069 --> 02:10:57,599
and i took a picture with her yeah

2967
02:11:05,589 --> 02:11:03,669
the movie the movie um

2968
02:11:08,709 --> 02:11:05,599
aside from the nakedness

2969
02:11:12,310 --> 02:11:08,719
which was pretty amazing by the way

2970
02:11:15,270 --> 02:11:12,320
the movie uh was excellent

2971
02:11:17,589 --> 02:11:15,280
and it was a different way to discuss

2972
02:11:19,510 --> 02:11:17,599
and and talk about et's it wasn't an

2973
02:11:22,870 --> 02:11:19,520
alien invasion film

2974
02:11:25,430 --> 02:11:22,880
right this was a film about

2975
02:11:27,589 --> 02:11:25,440
uh very tragic relationships that were

2976
02:11:30,310 --> 02:11:27,599
going down between her and

2977
02:11:31,669 --> 02:11:30,320
and and her uh uh

2978
02:11:34,310 --> 02:11:31,679
human

2979
02:11:36,470 --> 02:11:34,320
male earthlings on this planet

2980
02:11:38,629 --> 02:11:36,480
and so i'm going to ask you again why

2981
02:11:40,550 --> 02:11:38,639
why that movie why did it affect you

2982
02:11:42,709 --> 02:11:40,560
like it did i don't know because you

2983
02:11:44,870 --> 02:11:42,719
know at that time that's that's where my

2984
02:11:47,030 --> 02:11:44,880
level of consciousness was i was looking

2985
02:11:49,510 --> 02:11:47,040
for for and for answers to questions

2986
02:11:51,510 --> 02:11:49,520
that i had and sometimes

2987
02:11:53,189 --> 02:11:51,520
the best answers i could find were not

2988
02:11:57,990 --> 02:11:53,199
the right answers but they were an

2989
02:12:00,229 --> 02:11:58,000
answer that would be kind of like maybe

2990
02:12:02,470 --> 02:12:00,239
a grain of sand

2991
02:12:04,950 --> 02:12:02,480
in in the rabbit hole that i'm looking

2992
02:12:07,350 --> 02:12:04,960
for to go through which i believe i have

2993
02:12:09,830 --> 02:12:07,360
found and i and it's

2994
02:12:11,750 --> 02:12:09,840
and it's really it changed my life you

2995
02:12:12,470 --> 02:12:11,760
know my whole perception of life you

2996
02:12:14,229 --> 02:12:12,480
know

2997
02:12:17,669 --> 02:12:14,239
i don't

2998
02:12:20,310 --> 02:12:17,679
uh

2999
02:12:22,229 --> 02:12:20,320
you know things such as extraterrestrial

3000
02:12:25,910 --> 02:12:22,239
anymore i'm more

3001
02:12:27,510 --> 02:12:25,920
in tune with a quantum field

3002
02:12:30,470 --> 02:12:27,520
and all of us being connected and what

3003
02:12:34,589 --> 02:12:30,480
we're made out of photons and waves and

3004
02:12:37,990 --> 02:12:34,599
the the super string theory

3005
02:12:39,669 --> 02:12:38,000
192 192

3006
02:12:41,830 --> 02:12:39,679
frequencies

3007
02:12:44,709 --> 02:12:41,840
in one string

3008
02:12:46,790 --> 02:12:44,719
that holds together photons

3009
02:12:48,870 --> 02:12:46,800
you know which is part of

3010
02:12:50,069 --> 02:12:48,880
what we're made out of you know that

3011
02:12:52,149 --> 02:12:50,079
vibrate

3012
02:12:54,149 --> 02:12:52,159
you know if we can find those i would

3013
02:12:56,229 --> 02:12:54,159
love to hear those frequencies and

3014
02:12:59,030 --> 02:12:56,239
another thing about quantum physics what

3015
02:13:00,069 --> 02:12:59,040
it does that i think is so beautiful and

3016
02:13:03,750 --> 02:13:00,079
why i

3017
02:13:07,589 --> 02:13:03,760
i i really fascinated by it is the fact

3018
02:13:09,510 --> 02:13:07,599
that it validates spirituality it does

3019
02:13:11,990 --> 02:13:09,520
it does it does okay let's stay right

3020
02:13:15,030 --> 02:13:12,000
there but stay right there rudy

3021
02:13:18,470 --> 02:13:15,040
the the great physicist out there i've

3022
02:13:19,669 --> 02:13:18,480
had uh many on this show okay

3023
02:13:21,669 --> 02:13:19,679
uh

3024
02:13:24,950 --> 02:13:21,679
those guys

3025
02:13:27,830 --> 02:13:24,960
will talk about string theory um

3026
02:13:29,270 --> 02:13:27,840
multiple universes parallel worlds extra

3027
02:13:31,350 --> 02:13:29,280
dimensions

3028
02:13:32,229 --> 02:13:31,360
entanglement they'll talk about all of

3029
02:13:34,229 --> 02:13:32,239
this

3030
02:13:36,310 --> 02:13:34,239
but then the next step which is

3031
02:13:40,149 --> 02:13:36,320
spirituality that's where the line in

3032
02:13:43,030 --> 02:13:40,159
the sand is they don't want to go there

3033
02:13:45,910 --> 02:13:43,040
but if they continue their research and

3034
02:13:46,709 --> 02:13:45,920
certainly string theory is is showing is

3035
02:13:49,189 --> 02:13:46,719
that

3036
02:13:50,950 --> 02:13:49,199
spirituality is the next step isn't it

3037
02:13:53,109 --> 02:13:50,960
everything's going to eventually just

3038
02:13:56,229 --> 02:13:53,119
collide

3039
02:13:59,990 --> 02:13:56,239
nothing gets my attention like watching

3040
02:14:01,270 --> 02:14:00,000
john hagelin from the david lynch

3041
02:14:02,709 --> 02:14:01,280
foundation

3042
02:14:04,550 --> 02:14:02,719
who uh

3043
02:14:06,390 --> 02:14:04,560
who their goal is to teach

3044
02:14:07,430 --> 02:14:06,400
transcendental meditation across the

3045
02:14:09,990 --> 02:14:07,440
world

3046
02:14:15,030 --> 02:14:10,000
yep yep

3047
02:14:17,990 --> 02:14:15,040
john hagelin is a a quantum physicist

3048
02:14:19,350 --> 02:14:18,000
and he's so eloquent about explaining

3049
02:14:21,990 --> 02:14:19,360
about

3050
02:14:23,669 --> 02:14:22,000
transcendental meditation and going into

3051
02:14:25,510 --> 02:14:23,679
the quantum field

3052
02:14:27,830 --> 02:14:25,520
drawing that's why you really you're

3053
02:14:30,229 --> 02:14:27,840
going down this you know basically a

3054
02:14:32,629 --> 02:14:30,239
funnel it's like a pyramid

3055
02:14:35,270 --> 02:14:32,639
you go down different levels and you go

3056
02:14:37,990 --> 02:14:35,280
and the point that you land

3057
02:14:39,910 --> 02:14:38,000
that point of the pyramid

3058
02:14:43,350 --> 02:14:39,920
goes into the quantum field where

3059
02:14:46,709 --> 02:14:43,360
everything exists all possibilities

3060
02:14:48,310 --> 02:14:46,719
all possibilities you know and

3061
02:14:51,750 --> 02:14:48,320
that really gets my attention that

3062
02:14:54,390 --> 02:14:51,760
really gets me excited about being alive

3063
02:14:55,750 --> 02:14:54,400
and the possibilities of how i can

3064
02:14:59,350 --> 02:14:55,760
contribute

3065
02:15:02,870 --> 02:14:59,360
as a musician somebody who's actually

3066
02:15:05,750 --> 02:15:02,880
dedicated my life to making waves

3067
02:15:07,910 --> 02:15:05,760
playing frequencies you know

3068
02:15:09,750 --> 02:15:07,920
with so many different artists so many

3069
02:15:13,270 --> 02:15:09,760
different wonderful artists and made so

3070
02:15:15,589 --> 02:15:13,280
many records and and i i can tune in the

3071
02:15:18,310 --> 02:15:15,599
radio and once in a while i can hear

3072
02:15:20,550 --> 02:15:18,320
myself creating frequencies around the

3073
02:15:22,950 --> 02:15:20,560
world you know i

3074
02:15:24,550 --> 02:15:22,960
the fact that you're doing a show

3075
02:15:26,709 --> 02:15:24,560
live

3076
02:15:28,790 --> 02:15:26,719
means that people around the world are

3077
02:15:34,790 --> 02:15:28,800
tuning in

3078
02:15:38,870 --> 02:15:34,800
into the frequency of our conversation

3079
02:15:41,109 --> 02:15:38,880
and the and hopefully they're vibrating

3080
02:15:43,189 --> 02:15:41,119
along with us

3081
02:15:46,229 --> 02:15:43,199
globally not just

3082
02:15:48,470 --> 02:15:46,239
it's not about now having a local radio

3083
02:15:50,950 --> 02:15:48,480
station that people just listen to like

3084
02:15:51,750 --> 02:15:50,960
let's say klos back in the day right you

3085
02:15:55,910 --> 02:15:51,760
know

3086
02:15:58,709 --> 02:15:55,920
station and another city

3087
02:15:59,750 --> 02:15:58,719
you know but now is you hey

3088
02:16:01,350 --> 02:15:59,760
you have

3089
02:16:02,709 --> 02:16:01,360
the planet

3090
02:16:05,030 --> 02:16:02,719
vibrating

3091
02:16:06,629 --> 02:16:05,040
to our conversation

3092
02:16:09,910 --> 02:16:06,639
it's it's

3093
02:16:13,030 --> 02:16:09,920
that's what really excites me about

3094
02:16:15,510 --> 02:16:13,040
being alive today and at this moment

3095
02:16:18,629 --> 02:16:15,520
where i think wonderful things can be

3096
02:16:20,550 --> 02:16:18,639
achieved if we really

3097
02:16:22,790 --> 02:16:20,560
go in a

3098
02:16:25,669 --> 02:16:22,800
follow the path of the universe the

3099
02:16:27,270 --> 02:16:25,679
order of the universe

3100
02:16:30,229 --> 02:16:27,280
and remember

3101
02:16:32,629 --> 02:16:30,239
what about what about the the e word

3102
02:16:33,830 --> 02:16:32,639
entanglement

3103
02:16:35,669 --> 02:16:33,840
yes

3104
02:16:37,190 --> 02:16:35,679
right it's it's the big one

3105
02:16:39,669 --> 02:16:37,200
entanglement yes

3106
02:16:44,830 --> 02:16:42,790
without that entanglement

3107
02:16:47,030 --> 02:16:44,840
that's synchronicity that song

3108
02:16:49,509 --> 02:16:47,040
synchronicity by the police for the

3109
02:16:51,110 --> 02:16:49,519
police yes it's about that quantum

3110
02:16:53,110 --> 02:16:51,120
entanglement things happening at the

3111
02:16:56,389 --> 02:16:53,120
same time in different parts of the

3112
02:16:59,030 --> 02:16:56,399
planet all being synchronized and

3113
02:17:01,349 --> 02:16:59,040
tied together

3114
02:17:03,589 --> 02:17:01,359
yeah it's

3115
02:17:07,669 --> 02:17:03,599
it's part of the human experience

3116
02:17:11,830 --> 02:17:08,870
you know with

3117
02:17:14,709 --> 02:17:11,840
again with waves with music

3118
02:17:16,309 --> 02:17:14,719
i can let's say okay the the randy rose

3119
02:17:19,030 --> 02:17:16,319
experience

3120
02:17:22,469 --> 02:17:19,040
perfect example of quantum entanglement

3121
02:17:25,589 --> 02:17:22,479
you randy over 40 years ago

3122
02:17:28,389 --> 02:17:25,599
recorded these records

3123
02:17:31,830 --> 02:17:28,399
they get played now not just on on

3124
02:17:36,230 --> 02:17:33,429
their personal collection no it's

3125
02:17:37,190 --> 02:17:36,240
spotify youtube you can you don't even

3126
02:17:39,030 --> 02:17:37,200
have to

3127
02:17:41,429 --> 02:17:39,040
go to store and buy it anymore you could

3128
02:17:44,629 --> 02:17:41,439
be a starving musician and have this

3129
02:17:46,950 --> 02:17:44,639
library of music to learn from

3130
02:17:48,870 --> 02:17:46,960
at your disposal right there in real

3131
02:17:49,830 --> 02:17:48,880
time

3132
02:17:51,349 --> 02:17:49,840
and

3133
02:17:53,509 --> 02:17:51,359
let's say there's a 10 year old that

3134
02:17:57,509 --> 02:17:53,519
wants to learn and wants to explore

3135
02:17:59,750 --> 02:17:57,519
guitar players they're run into randy

3136
02:18:01,509 --> 02:17:59,760
and you go wow

3137
02:18:03,910 --> 02:18:01,519
this guy's amazing and i know this

3138
02:18:06,309 --> 02:18:03,920
because this kid will probably send me

3139
02:18:08,870 --> 02:18:06,319
an email or a message on instagram

3140
02:18:11,030 --> 02:18:08,880
telling me about randy right this kid

3141
02:18:13,509 --> 02:18:11,040
doesn't even know randy's dead yet he

3142
02:18:16,790 --> 02:18:13,519
doesn't know yet that he is dead his

3143
02:18:18,950 --> 02:18:16,800
music is alive because it's his music

3144
02:18:22,230 --> 02:18:18,960
so so he's having the quantum

3145
02:18:26,629 --> 02:18:22,240
entanglement experience with randy

3146
02:18:28,309 --> 02:18:26,639
in the quantum field not as as as humans

3147
02:18:30,629 --> 02:18:28,319
anymore but it's the music is the

3148
02:18:34,790 --> 02:18:30,639
vibration as the resonance what does

3149
02:18:36,549 --> 02:18:34,800
randy's music means to him at some point

3150
02:18:38,870 --> 02:18:36,559
he'll learn that randy is no longer with

3151
02:18:42,150 --> 02:18:38,880
us and he'll have

3152
02:18:44,790 --> 02:18:42,160
he'll feel the same pain

3153
02:18:46,389 --> 02:18:44,800
that a fan felt when they tuned in the

3154
02:18:48,629 --> 02:18:46,399
radio

3155
02:18:51,030 --> 02:18:48,639
march 19 19

3156
02:18:53,030 --> 02:18:51,040
1982

3157
02:18:56,389 --> 02:18:53,040
and heard it in the news on the radio

3158
02:19:00,230 --> 02:18:58,230
the uh

3159
02:19:01,750 --> 02:19:00,240
the other day

3160
02:19:04,870 --> 02:19:01,760
i went

3161
02:19:08,629 --> 02:19:04,880
and this is this is about a week ago

3162
02:19:09,589 --> 02:19:08,639
and i went and really listened

3163
02:19:11,509 --> 02:19:09,599
to

3164
02:19:13,270 --> 02:19:11,519
diary of a madman

3165
02:19:15,110 --> 02:19:13,280
the the song

3166
02:19:18,070 --> 02:19:15,120
and i started to

3167
02:19:20,950 --> 02:19:18,080
like never before um when i learned how

3168
02:19:23,270 --> 02:19:20,960
to play that song on guitar as a kid

3169
02:19:25,990 --> 02:19:23,280
i'm in a natural meter

3170
02:19:27,990 --> 02:19:26,000
i'm feeling it naturally

3171
02:19:30,629 --> 02:19:28,000
i don't understand the odd time

3172
02:19:33,190 --> 02:19:30,639
signatures i'm not counting i'm just

3173
02:19:36,230 --> 02:19:33,200
learning it naturally and learning it by

3174
02:19:39,349 --> 02:19:36,240
feel but uh a week ago maybe two weeks

3175
02:19:41,669 --> 02:19:39,359
ago i went and started and i'm counting

3176
02:19:43,270 --> 02:19:41,679
and i'm like wait a minute here this is

3177
02:19:44,150 --> 02:19:43,280
a 4-3

3178
02:19:46,150 --> 02:19:44,160
right

3179
02:19:49,190 --> 02:19:46,160
i'm doing the count

3180
02:19:50,550 --> 02:19:49,200
and naturally everybody can vibe to it

3181
02:19:52,070 --> 02:19:50,560
like you're saying right they can

3182
02:19:52,950 --> 02:19:52,080
entangle to it

3183
02:19:54,790 --> 02:19:52,960
but

3184
02:19:56,830 --> 02:19:54,800
we're talking about some of the most

3185
02:19:59,910 --> 02:19:56,840
articulate

3186
02:20:01,590 --> 02:19:59,920
orchestral vision into

3187
02:20:03,670 --> 02:20:01,600
one of the most dramatic rock tunes

3188
02:20:05,830 --> 02:20:03,680
that's ever been right it's got choir

3189
02:20:07,110 --> 02:20:05,840
it's got strings

3190
02:20:09,349 --> 02:20:07,120
but it's also

3191
02:20:10,710 --> 02:20:09,359
heavy metal it's it's a rock and roll

3192
02:20:14,790 --> 02:20:10,720
tune

3193
02:20:18,070 --> 02:20:14,800
the those odd time signatures uh for you

3194
02:20:19,270 --> 02:20:18,080
did you play those naturally learning

3195
02:20:22,309 --> 02:20:19,280
them live

3196
02:20:24,469 --> 02:20:22,319
or were you counting like a 4-3 and

3197
02:20:25,910 --> 02:20:24,479
trying to resolve a seven

3198
02:20:31,830 --> 02:20:25,920
over

3199
02:20:35,510 --> 02:20:31,840
i i grew up

3200
02:20:38,550 --> 02:20:35,520
in cuba with syncopation uh afro-cuban

3201
02:20:40,710 --> 02:20:38,560
music is filled with odd times

3202
02:20:42,469 --> 02:20:40,720
so it was very natural for me it's

3203
02:20:45,110 --> 02:20:42,479
always been natural because that's

3204
02:20:46,710 --> 02:20:45,120
that's the core of of latin music

3205
02:20:48,230 --> 02:20:46,720
at times you know where you have

3206
02:20:49,990 --> 02:20:48,240
different different instruments playing

3207
02:20:51,030 --> 02:20:50,000
different times

3208
02:20:52,710 --> 02:20:51,040
you know you have the cloud you're

3209
02:20:54,550 --> 02:20:52,720
playing one time and then you got like

3210
02:20:57,270 --> 02:20:54,560
the bass is doing a tombaugh against

3211
02:21:00,230 --> 02:20:57,280
against the you know counterpoint

3212
02:21:01,910 --> 02:21:00,240
you know and uh but

3213
02:21:04,710 --> 02:21:01,920
you know when you were talking about

3214
02:21:06,790 --> 02:21:04,720
listening to uh to diary and all of that

3215
02:21:07,910 --> 02:21:06,800
i i want to share something with you i

3216
02:21:08,630 --> 02:21:07,920
uh

3217
02:21:14,389 --> 02:21:08,640
i

3218
02:21:16,710 --> 02:21:14,399
lockdown you know they shut down all the

3219
02:21:19,750 --> 02:21:16,720
gyms and i i needed to continue working

3220
02:21:21,990 --> 02:21:19,760
out and you know nothing fancy and i

3221
02:21:24,309 --> 02:21:22,000
always bring with me my iphone and

3222
02:21:26,230 --> 02:21:24,319
putting youtube and you know

3223
02:21:27,750 --> 02:21:26,240
my my favorite records and this time i

3224
02:21:28,790 --> 02:21:27,760
decided to play

3225
02:21:31,030 --> 02:21:28,800
tribute

3226
02:21:33,270 --> 02:21:31,040
oh and randy rose life right right right

3227
02:21:35,030 --> 02:21:33,280
right i'm playing on the record i'm

3228
02:21:39,110 --> 02:21:35,040
there i've been there i was there when

3229
02:21:41,429 --> 02:21:39,120
it was recorded on the same stage right

3230
02:21:43,190 --> 02:21:41,439
but there's something about working out

3231
02:21:45,030 --> 02:21:43,200
that you're just going getting into that

3232
02:21:46,950 --> 02:21:45,040
zone of like

3233
02:21:48,710 --> 02:21:46,960
you know you just listen to the music

3234
02:21:50,309 --> 02:21:48,720
you're working and

3235
02:21:52,830 --> 02:21:50,319
and you're not like

3236
02:21:55,910 --> 02:21:52,840
you're i was in it so i said you know

3237
02:21:57,830 --> 02:21:55,920
what let me go there

3238
02:22:00,150 --> 02:21:57,840
let me go back

3239
02:22:01,910 --> 02:22:00,160
sometimes i i i'll do that i'll put

3240
02:22:03,910 --> 02:22:01,920
myself on stage

3241
02:22:05,590 --> 02:22:03,920
you know and i'm listening to it

3242
02:22:07,590 --> 02:22:05,600
but i gotta tell you

3243
02:22:09,750 --> 02:22:07,600
i started laughing

3244
02:22:11,429 --> 02:22:09,760
and crying

3245
02:22:15,110 --> 02:22:11,439
at how

3246
02:22:18,469 --> 02:22:15,120
magnificent randy was playing

3247
02:22:19,429 --> 02:22:18,479
it was like oh my god

3248
02:22:33,750 --> 02:22:19,439
i

3249
02:22:34,830 --> 02:22:33,760
just

3250
02:22:37,030 --> 02:22:34,840
i was

3251
02:22:38,790 --> 02:22:37,040
so moved

3252
02:22:40,270 --> 02:22:38,800
i started crying i first started

3253
02:22:41,910 --> 02:22:40,280
laughing at how

3254
02:22:44,469 --> 02:22:41,920
ridiculously

3255
02:22:47,510 --> 02:22:44,479
incredible it was

3256
02:22:48,389 --> 02:22:47,520
because you know he he did the record

3257
02:22:50,230 --> 02:22:48,399
but

3258
02:22:53,510 --> 02:22:50,240
every night when we play live he took it

3259
02:22:54,630 --> 02:22:53,520
to the next level all his solos his his

3260
02:22:58,790 --> 02:22:54,640
feet

3261
02:23:01,830 --> 02:22:58,800
his his emotion behind every riff it was

3262
02:23:03,349 --> 02:23:01,840
like oh my god he's on fire this is

3263
02:23:05,429 --> 02:23:03,359
unbelievable

3264
02:23:06,309 --> 02:23:05,439
and i was there

3265
02:23:08,790 --> 02:23:06,319
you know

3266
02:23:11,110 --> 02:23:08,800
so yeah i get it when when people hear

3267
02:23:13,830 --> 02:23:11,120
it for the first time because me being

3268
02:23:16,830 --> 02:23:13,840
there i was i was knocked out

3269
02:23:24,710 --> 02:23:21,910
um uh there is um uh for me oh here look

3270
02:23:29,190 --> 02:23:27,030
is that a mahogany

3271
02:23:32,389 --> 02:23:29,200
look at that baby huh

3272
02:23:34,389 --> 02:23:32,399
is that uh mahogany this is and this is

3273
02:23:36,230 --> 02:23:34,399
uh african

3274
02:23:38,309 --> 02:23:36,240
uh zirconi

3275
02:23:40,630 --> 02:23:38,319
oh okay

3276
02:23:41,429 --> 02:23:40,640
wow beautiful just just hanging right

3277
02:23:42,710 --> 02:23:41,439
here

3278
02:23:44,550 --> 02:23:42,720
um

3279
02:23:45,429 --> 02:23:44,560
there was uh

3280
02:23:47,910 --> 02:23:45,439
uh

3281
02:23:49,429 --> 02:23:47,920
you guys okay i want to ask you first if

3282
02:23:50,150 --> 02:23:49,439
you remember this

3283
02:23:52,070 --> 02:23:50,160
and

3284
02:23:53,190 --> 02:23:52,080
you have an incredible memory but here's

3285
02:23:53,990 --> 02:23:53,200
a test

3286
02:23:56,469 --> 02:23:54,000
um

3287
02:23:59,510 --> 02:23:56,479
on the blizzard tour

3288
02:24:01,349 --> 02:23:59,520
i'm in high school okay all right and on

3289
02:24:03,349 --> 02:24:01,359
the blizzard tour you guys were supposed

3290
02:24:06,389 --> 02:24:03,359
to play market square arena

3291
02:24:09,510 --> 02:24:06,399
and it got bounced down to this tiny

3292
02:24:11,270 --> 02:24:09,520
little theater called the circle theater

3293
02:24:13,429 --> 02:24:11,280
in indianapolis

3294
02:24:15,590 --> 02:24:13,439
yeah do you remember that gig

3295
02:24:16,790 --> 02:24:15,600
yeah i'll even give you more more

3296
02:24:18,710 --> 02:24:16,800
details

3297
02:24:20,469 --> 02:24:18,720
okay uh

3298
02:24:22,309 --> 02:24:20,479
it you know up until that time we were

3299
02:24:23,990 --> 02:24:22,319
pretty much doing

3300
02:24:25,590 --> 02:24:24,000
the uh

3301
02:24:26,870 --> 02:24:25,600
theaters

3302
02:24:29,030 --> 02:24:26,880
and

3303
02:24:31,270 --> 02:24:29,040
okay uh

3304
02:24:33,590 --> 02:24:31,280
we had just okay oh by the way that

3305
02:24:35,590 --> 02:24:33,600
night and uh in marxist square arena you

3306
02:24:37,910 --> 02:24:35,600
know who was actually playing

3307
02:24:39,110 --> 02:24:37,920
across the street

3308
02:24:39,910 --> 02:24:39,120
uh uh

3309
02:24:45,030 --> 02:24:39,920
who

3310
02:24:49,270 --> 02:24:46,950
and i know and i know because we

3311
02:24:50,309 --> 02:24:49,280
finished the show

3312
02:24:52,070 --> 02:24:50,319
our show

3313
02:24:53,750 --> 02:24:52,080
and we ran across the street went into

3314
02:24:56,230 --> 02:24:53,760
the market square arena

3315
02:24:59,030 --> 02:24:56,240
and watched the like the last half of

3316
02:25:01,750 --> 02:24:59,040
the show of the jacksons and they had

3317
02:25:03,910 --> 02:25:01,760
the big spiders and all these mechanical

3318
02:25:05,510 --> 02:25:03,920
things you know right and sharon turns

3319
02:25:07,910 --> 02:25:05,520
to us and says

3320
02:25:09,910 --> 02:25:07,920
oh and they do not do an encore

3321
02:25:12,150 --> 02:25:09,920
they just finish the show and that's it

3322
02:25:14,070 --> 02:25:12,160
the end of the show and sharon says

3323
02:25:16,469 --> 02:25:14,080
that's a great idea we're going to

3324
02:25:17,830 --> 02:25:16,479
educate our fans and we're going to do

3325
02:25:21,030 --> 02:25:17,840
that

3326
02:25:25,030 --> 02:25:21,040
of course on the next tour

3327
02:25:26,550 --> 02:25:25,040
okay so circle theater yes my 15 year

3328
02:25:28,950 --> 02:25:26,560
old ass

3329
02:25:29,910 --> 02:25:28,960
yeah was in the front row at the circle

3330
02:25:31,270 --> 02:25:29,920
theater

3331
02:25:33,270 --> 02:25:31,280
okay

3332
02:25:36,230 --> 02:25:33,280
another piece of information you might

3333
02:25:39,030 --> 02:25:36,240
not be aware of okay uh

3334
02:25:42,630 --> 02:25:39,040
by by then we had done a king biscuit

3335
02:25:44,309 --> 02:25:42,640
and a uh and a uh westwood one

3336
02:25:47,190 --> 02:25:44,319
and

3337
02:25:49,830 --> 02:25:47,200
we did the last one we did in montreal

3338
02:25:52,950 --> 02:25:49,840
ozzy was not really happy with it

3339
02:25:53,990 --> 02:25:52,960
so they rescheduled to do another live

3340
02:25:55,429 --> 02:25:54,000
show

3341
02:25:57,990 --> 02:25:55,439
that's the one

3342
02:25:59,429 --> 02:25:58,000
for for radio it was at the circle

3343
02:26:01,990 --> 02:25:59,439
theater

3344
02:26:03,270 --> 02:26:02,000
is that true yeah i i did not now that i

3345
02:26:06,389 --> 02:26:03,280
did not know

3346
02:26:09,429 --> 02:26:06,399
yeah so you're saying that me screaming

3347
02:26:12,630 --> 02:26:09,439
in the front row was broadcast

3348
02:26:14,309 --> 02:26:12,640
you're the guy yelling rudy i was rudy

3349
02:26:16,309 --> 02:26:14,319
rudy

3350
02:26:19,830 --> 02:26:16,319
okay so the reason why i'm bringing this

3351
02:26:22,469 --> 02:26:19,840
up rudy is um you remember how small and

3352
02:26:24,230 --> 02:26:22,479
intimate that that show was

3353
02:26:27,429 --> 02:26:24,240
and so as a fan

3354
02:26:29,349 --> 02:26:27,439
um you've got that going small stage def

3355
02:26:30,389 --> 02:26:29,359
leppard opened you remember that

3356
02:26:33,429 --> 02:26:30,399
okay

3357
02:26:36,870 --> 02:26:33,439
and and so anyway uh

3358
02:26:39,750 --> 02:26:36,880
randy was just making the waves in the

3359
02:26:41,510 --> 02:26:39,760
guitar community everybody's waking up

3360
02:26:43,510 --> 02:26:41,520
and he came out and at the circle

3361
02:26:46,230 --> 02:26:43,520
theaters you remember you guys were

3362
02:26:47,349 --> 02:26:46,240
right on the audience right it was this

3363
02:26:50,230 --> 02:26:47,359
close

3364
02:26:51,990 --> 02:26:50,240
and his playing that night rudy and i've

3365
02:26:52,950 --> 02:26:52,000
never told you about this

3366
02:26:56,630 --> 02:26:52,960
was

3367
02:26:59,190 --> 02:26:56,640
as a guitar player and i'm listening

3368
02:27:02,150 --> 02:26:59,200
was so crystal clear

3369
02:27:03,349 --> 02:27:02,160
every note of every song was played with

3370
02:27:05,190 --> 02:27:03,359
intention

3371
02:27:06,550 --> 02:27:05,200
he didn't phone anything in and there

3372
02:27:08,230 --> 02:27:06,560
was no

3373
02:27:10,950 --> 02:27:08,240
sloppiness

3374
02:27:13,110 --> 02:27:10,960
and and that was the one thing that i

3375
02:27:14,389 --> 02:27:13,120
learned i walked away from that show

3376
02:27:16,950 --> 02:27:14,399
that i going you know what i got to

3377
02:27:20,230 --> 02:27:16,960
rethink what i'm doing here because

3378
02:27:23,750 --> 02:27:20,240
every note of every song was played with

3379
02:27:25,750 --> 02:27:23,760
intention every chord everything

3380
02:27:28,389 --> 02:27:25,760
did you pick up the same vibe was he

3381
02:27:30,870 --> 02:27:28,399
like that every night oh every night

3382
02:27:34,630 --> 02:27:30,880
and then some and like i said he was

3383
02:27:40,070 --> 02:27:37,270
he just kept growing and it was like oh

3384
02:27:43,190 --> 02:27:40,080
my god i mean i i heard things

3385
02:27:45,510 --> 02:27:43,200
that randy played backstage

3386
02:27:47,429 --> 02:27:45,520
that the rest of the world would never

3387
02:27:49,670 --> 02:27:47,439
hear i heard it

3388
02:27:50,870 --> 02:27:49,680
you know because i was there

3389
02:27:53,349 --> 02:27:50,880
uh

3390
02:27:55,670 --> 02:27:53,359
i heard things on stage that unless

3391
02:27:59,270 --> 02:27:55,680
somebody comes up with a bootleg on that

3392
02:28:00,630 --> 02:27:59,280
show on diary of a madman nobody nobody

3393
02:28:02,389 --> 02:28:00,640
would hear except for the people that

3394
02:28:04,790 --> 02:28:02,399
were in the audience

3395
02:28:07,110 --> 02:28:04,800
you know uh

3396
02:28:09,030 --> 02:28:07,120
it was stunning

3397
02:28:10,150 --> 02:28:09,040
and it just got more stunning every

3398
02:28:12,790 --> 02:28:10,160
night

3399
02:28:16,630 --> 02:28:12,800
because remember tribute was actually an

3400
02:28:19,830 --> 02:28:16,640
early recording there's a year one one

3401
02:28:22,150 --> 02:28:19,840
about one year more of randy's

3402
02:28:23,590 --> 02:28:22,160
growing as a musician

3403
02:28:27,910 --> 02:28:23,600
from that

3404
02:28:31,349 --> 02:28:27,920
uh tribute recording now that ability uh

3405
02:28:34,389 --> 02:28:31,359
for you that happened in 1979

3406
02:28:37,670 --> 02:28:34,399
when we moved the timeline up to that

3407
02:28:39,349 --> 02:28:37,680
tragic day in 1982

3408
02:28:42,150 --> 02:28:39,359
did you have a vibe

3409
02:28:44,630 --> 02:28:42,160
was did you have any foreboding

3410
02:28:47,429 --> 02:28:44,640
that something like this this tragic was

3411
02:28:49,510 --> 02:28:47,439
about to happen before it did

3412
02:28:52,150 --> 02:28:49,520
uh

3413
02:28:54,870 --> 02:28:52,160
maybe i did but i did not recognize it i

3414
02:28:57,910 --> 02:28:54,880
uh

3415
02:29:00,309 --> 02:28:57,920
we were in the tour bus we were driving

3416
02:29:01,750 --> 02:29:00,319
riding uh we had a bus driver like we

3417
02:29:05,270 --> 02:29:01,760
were riding

3418
02:29:08,150 --> 02:29:05,280
from knoxville down to

3419
02:29:11,110 --> 02:29:08,160
uh or this final destination was orlando

3420
02:29:13,510 --> 02:29:11,120
but we wound up on kissimmee

3421
02:29:15,990 --> 02:29:13,520
and on the tour bus

3422
02:29:17,910 --> 02:29:16,000
for some reason they picked the movie

3423
02:29:20,389 --> 02:29:17,920
torah torah torah

3424
02:29:23,429 --> 02:29:20,399
you know by the japanese

3425
02:29:24,950 --> 02:29:23,439
right uh yeah the kamikaze fighters and

3426
02:29:26,950 --> 02:29:24,960
you know i'm sitting there in the tour

3427
02:29:28,150 --> 02:29:26,960
bus after the show and i'm one of those

3428
02:29:31,429 --> 02:29:28,160
guys who

3429
02:29:33,349 --> 02:29:31,439
you know i i stay away from from movies

3430
02:29:35,349 --> 02:29:33,359
that would have a certain impact

3431
02:29:37,750 --> 02:29:35,359
emotionally with me

3432
02:29:40,630 --> 02:29:37,760
uh horror movies and things like that

3433
02:29:43,349 --> 02:29:40,640
because i don't need them in my life see

3434
02:29:47,910 --> 02:29:43,359
what i believe that we are all

3435
02:29:49,429 --> 02:29:47,920
each one of us is an alternate reality

3436
02:29:51,190 --> 02:29:49,439
i could be you i could be right there

3437
02:29:53,110 --> 02:29:51,200
doing exactly what you're doing but i'm

3438
02:29:54,710 --> 02:29:53,120
not i'm doing doing what i'm doing or

3439
02:29:56,469 --> 02:29:54,720
you could be doing what i'm doing right

3440
02:29:58,550 --> 02:29:56,479
or anybody else in the world we're all

3441
02:30:00,630 --> 02:29:58,560
each other alternate realities we're and

3442
02:30:01,429 --> 02:30:00,640
we're fractals

3443
02:30:04,710 --> 02:30:01,439
right

3444
02:30:07,990 --> 02:30:04,720
so i believe that

3445
02:30:09,670 --> 02:30:08,000
information thoughts from others that we

3446
02:30:12,790 --> 02:30:09,680
take in

3447
02:30:14,870 --> 02:30:12,800
or stories that we read we become that

3448
02:30:17,429 --> 02:30:14,880
we have the ability for that moment to

3449
02:30:19,349 --> 02:30:17,439
become that to be emotionally attached

3450
02:30:20,550 --> 02:30:19,359
that entanglement that we're talking

3451
02:30:22,230 --> 02:30:20,560
about

3452
02:30:24,309 --> 02:30:22,240
right so

3453
02:30:25,429 --> 02:30:24,319
when when i see something that is

3454
02:30:27,190 --> 02:30:25,439
violent

3455
02:30:31,030 --> 02:30:27,200
like it's very hard for me to watch like

3456
02:30:33,670 --> 02:30:31,040
an uh let's say uh ufc fight or boxing

3457
02:30:35,590 --> 02:30:33,680
or especially the ladies fighting you

3458
02:30:38,630 --> 02:30:35,600
know i'll go like

3459
02:30:41,030 --> 02:30:38,640
i i i i don't react very well to it

3460
02:30:43,110 --> 02:30:41,040
because i i get too involved you know i

3461
02:30:45,510 --> 02:30:43,120
mean i feel it i feel the pain i feel

3462
02:30:47,030 --> 02:30:45,520
the agony and all of that and it's like

3463
02:30:49,990 --> 02:30:47,040
i don't want to go there

3464
02:30:53,429 --> 02:30:50,000
and so i i retired

3465
02:30:55,510 --> 02:30:53,439
that night to my bunk in the bus early

3466
02:30:58,150 --> 02:30:55,520
because i was not interested in seeing a

3467
02:31:00,790 --> 02:30:58,160
bunch of kamikaze flyers you know

3468
02:31:02,309 --> 02:31:00,800
colliding and and you know uh crashing

3469
02:31:03,750 --> 02:31:02,319
and all of that

3470
02:31:05,590 --> 02:31:03,760
and

3471
02:31:06,870 --> 02:31:05,600
so that that that's that's what was

3472
02:31:09,429 --> 02:31:06,880
going on i

3473
02:31:11,590 --> 02:31:09,439
i will not be surprised if

3474
02:31:14,389 --> 02:31:11,600
because as you know you know the tour

3475
02:31:15,429 --> 02:31:14,399
bus whatever is being played and usually

3476
02:31:17,750 --> 02:31:15,439
the tv

3477
02:31:19,110 --> 02:31:17,760
back in the day was right behind the bus

3478
02:31:22,630 --> 02:31:19,120
driver

3479
02:31:24,710 --> 02:31:22,640
right you know like into the lounge yes

3480
02:31:27,670 --> 02:31:24,720
yeah and the front lounge so i'm sure

3481
02:31:29,750 --> 02:31:27,680
that the bus driver could hear

3482
02:31:32,070 --> 02:31:29,760
the movie and hear about all those

3483
02:31:33,590 --> 02:31:32,080
planes crashing and exploding and all

3484
02:31:36,150 --> 02:31:33,600
that and

3485
02:31:38,150 --> 02:31:36,160
that might have some sort of influence

3486
02:31:40,870 --> 02:31:38,160
i mean it's

3487
02:31:42,230 --> 02:31:40,880
talking about the crash

3488
02:31:44,950 --> 02:31:42,240
you know i don't think we have enough

3489
02:31:47,349 --> 02:31:44,960
time left in the show to really you know

3490
02:31:49,510 --> 02:31:47,359
get into all the nooks and crannies of

3491
02:31:51,910 --> 02:31:49,520
all the details

3492
02:31:54,550 --> 02:31:51,920
but uh

3493
02:31:59,110 --> 02:31:54,560
if if if there was some kind of a

3494
02:32:02,389 --> 02:32:01,590
the movie experiencing the movie

3495
02:32:04,550 --> 02:32:02,399
to

3496
02:32:07,349 --> 02:32:04,560
go in my bunk

3497
02:32:09,349 --> 02:32:07,359
the last time i saw randy we had

3498
02:32:12,790 --> 02:32:09,359
we had arrived

3499
02:32:15,429 --> 02:32:12,800
at at the uh the bus depot of the bus

3500
02:32:17,190 --> 02:32:15,439
company the the company uh

3501
02:32:19,750 --> 02:32:17,200
the people that owned the

3502
02:32:21,670 --> 02:32:19,760
all those buses they had a home with a

3503
02:32:24,469 --> 02:32:21,680
landing strip

3504
02:32:26,150 --> 02:32:24,479
in uh cassini florida it's a section

3505
02:32:28,230 --> 02:32:26,160
where i believe john travolta lives

3506
02:32:29,349 --> 02:32:28,240
there he's got his plane there's like

3507
02:32:32,230 --> 02:32:29,359
you know there's a lot of people there

3508
02:32:33,590 --> 02:32:32,240
yeah near clear water yes yeah yes yeah

3509
02:32:34,710 --> 02:32:33,600
and uh

3510
02:32:38,150 --> 02:32:34,720
so

3511
02:32:41,590 --> 02:32:38,160
i randy is yelling out for me to and i

3512
02:32:43,670 --> 02:32:41,600
open my my uh the curtain to my bunker i

3513
02:32:45,270 --> 02:32:43,680
stick my head out and randy's standing

3514
02:32:47,750 --> 02:32:45,280
right there at the door the doorway of

3515
02:32:48,870 --> 02:32:47,760
the of the bus is about to step out of

3516
02:32:51,270 --> 02:32:48,880
the bus

3517
02:32:52,950 --> 02:32:51,280
she's saying hey roots come on

3518
02:32:55,349 --> 02:32:52,960
we're gonna go up on the plane and do

3519
02:32:56,950 --> 02:32:55,359
this and that and i'm like i was raised

3520
02:32:57,910 --> 02:32:56,960
in florida the last thing i wanted to do

3521
02:33:01,110 --> 02:32:57,920
is like

3522
02:33:03,510 --> 02:33:01,120
go on a cessna and fly around where i

3523
02:33:06,790 --> 02:33:03,520
grew up i'm not interested i just want

3524
02:33:08,950 --> 02:33:06,800
to get some sleep get to the hotel

3525
02:33:11,510 --> 02:33:08,960
get some breakfast and lay by the pool

3526
02:33:13,110 --> 02:33:11,520
that was it my day off you know so so i

3527
02:33:15,510 --> 02:33:13,120
declined and it was the only thing that

3528
02:33:17,670 --> 02:33:15,520
i've ever declined with randy doing i

3529
02:33:19,670 --> 02:33:17,680
mean we we had a bunch of adventures on

3530
02:33:21,670 --> 02:33:19,680
the road but that was that was the only

3531
02:33:24,870 --> 02:33:21,680
one then i close my curtain go back to

3532
02:33:26,309 --> 02:33:24,880
sleep and i'm awakened i want to awaken

3533
02:33:29,190 --> 02:33:26,319
to

3534
02:33:32,630 --> 02:33:29,200
the plane clipping the bus

3535
02:33:35,110 --> 02:33:32,640
with its wing right yeah the wing yeah

3536
02:33:37,429 --> 02:33:35,120
yeah i stood right at the the point of

3537
02:33:39,429 --> 02:33:37,439
impact of the wing

3538
02:33:41,830 --> 02:33:39,439
where it clipped the bus and it was up

3539
02:33:44,389 --> 02:33:41,840
to my nose and i'm 510 so it must have

3540
02:33:46,870 --> 02:33:44,399
been about five six

3541
02:33:49,830 --> 02:33:46,880
off the ground five foot six inches off

3542
02:33:52,230 --> 02:33:49,840
the ground as it came perpendicular

3543
02:33:55,910 --> 02:33:52,240
towards the bus

3544
02:33:59,910 --> 02:33:57,429
you know we've never talked about this

3545
02:34:02,950 --> 02:33:59,920
before and uh

3546
02:34:06,309 --> 02:34:02,960
uh it you know and i think about it now

3547
02:34:07,590 --> 02:34:06,319
uh when uh when his birthday

3548
02:34:09,910 --> 02:34:07,600
and uh

3549
02:34:12,710 --> 02:34:09,920
and i told the story on the air

3550
02:34:15,190 --> 02:34:12,720
rudy of the phone call that i got right

3551
02:34:17,750 --> 02:34:15,200
in indianapolis i was at work

3552
02:34:20,469 --> 02:34:17,760
and a friend of mine called uh his name

3553
02:34:24,150 --> 02:34:20,479
is randy and randy says you know this

3554
02:34:27,110 --> 02:34:24,160
just happened and all i all i remember

3555
02:34:30,950 --> 02:34:27,120
was and my story's not unique

3556
02:34:33,190 --> 02:34:30,960
right i think that the music community

3557
02:34:35,750 --> 02:34:33,200
all went through it at the same time

3558
02:34:37,190 --> 02:34:35,760
uh but i hung up the phone and i just

3559
02:34:40,550 --> 02:34:37,200
stared

3560
02:34:42,710 --> 02:34:40,560
i and and to have somebody like that

3561
02:34:43,429 --> 02:34:42,720
effect i didn't know him no i hadn't met

3562
02:34:45,910 --> 02:34:43,439
him

3563
02:34:46,950 --> 02:34:45,920
uh i i saw a couple of shows couple of

3564
02:34:50,630 --> 02:34:46,960
tours

3565
02:34:53,349 --> 02:34:50,640
um but his music was inside of me

3566
02:34:54,309 --> 02:34:53,359
and it was it was it was harsh it was

3567
02:34:57,429 --> 02:34:54,319
harsh

3568
02:34:59,510 --> 02:34:57,439
and and i don't i don't ever want to uh

3569
02:35:00,309 --> 02:34:59,520
have his memory fade and i will do my

3570
02:35:02,950 --> 02:35:00,319
part

3571
02:35:04,469 --> 02:35:02,960
uh to always remember randy rhodes and i

3572
02:35:05,590 --> 02:35:04,479
want to thank you for sharing that story

3573
02:35:08,710 --> 02:35:05,600
with us

3574
02:35:10,710 --> 02:35:08,720
yeah you know we're just talking about

3575
02:35:12,630 --> 02:35:10,720
things that rearrange you know frequency

3576
02:35:14,070 --> 02:35:12,640
that will rearrange your dna and

3577
02:35:16,790 --> 02:35:14,080
frequencies that will

3578
02:35:19,110 --> 02:35:16,800
rewire your your brain you know

3579
02:35:23,910 --> 02:35:20,469
that

3580
02:35:25,270 --> 02:35:23,920
completely

3581
02:35:27,270 --> 02:35:25,280
and

3582
02:35:29,030 --> 02:35:27,280
what an amazing experience to experience

3583
02:35:31,830 --> 02:35:29,040
that every night you know

3584
02:35:34,870 --> 02:35:31,840
my dna was rearranged to what it is

3585
02:35:36,550 --> 02:35:34,880
today and and my brain rewired

3586
02:35:38,710 --> 02:35:36,560
completely yeah

3587
02:35:41,830 --> 02:35:38,720
you have a great smile my friend happy

3588
02:35:43,670 --> 02:35:41,840
holidays give my best it back

3589
02:35:45,990 --> 02:35:43,680
thank you and i look forward to the next

3590
02:35:47,750 --> 02:35:46,000
time you're on the show hey hey i want

3591
02:35:50,070 --> 02:35:47,760
to come on your show

3592
02:35:52,550 --> 02:35:50,080
okay yeah no i'm serious

3593
02:35:54,710 --> 02:35:52,560
no don't just say okay

3594
02:35:57,590 --> 02:35:54,720
i want to come on your show all right

3595
02:35:59,910 --> 02:35:57,600
okay okay okay

3596
02:36:01,910 --> 02:35:59,920
you're the best fruity happy holidays my

3597
02:36:05,590 --> 02:36:01,920
friend god bless you right back at you

3598
02:36:07,190 --> 02:36:05,600
rudy rudy sarzo this is fade to black

3599
02:36:09,910 --> 02:36:07,200
thank you rudy what a great conversation

3600
02:36:12,469 --> 02:36:09,920
tonight i'm going to take a quick break

3601
02:36:14,550 --> 02:36:12,479
and uh again uh while rudy is still

3602
02:36:15,670 --> 02:36:14,560
there thank you so much rudy have a

3603
02:36:17,270 --> 02:36:15,680
great night

3604
02:36:19,590 --> 02:36:17,280
this is fade to black i'm gonna open up

3605
02:36:23,510 --> 02:36:19,600
the phone lines next i'm your host jimmy

3606
02:36:49,349 --> 02:36:26,170
i'll be right back

3607
02:36:53,030 --> 02:36:51,510
you're listening to jimmy church and

3608
02:36:57,990 --> 02:36:53,040
fade to black

3609
02:37:03,190 --> 02:37:00,389
hey what up y'all biblical fox here and

3610
02:37:07,510 --> 02:37:03,200
you are listening to my boy jimmy church

3611
02:37:13,470 --> 02:37:10,070
despite popular opinion

3612
02:37:16,720 --> 02:37:13,480
reading a book will not make you smarter

3613
02:37:21,030 --> 02:37:18,630
[Applause]

3614
02:37:24,070 --> 02:37:21,040
this is jimmy church and i personally

3615
02:37:26,630 --> 02:37:24,080
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3616
02:37:29,670 --> 02:37:26,640
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3617
02:37:31,910 --> 02:37:29,680
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3618
02:37:34,070 --> 02:37:31,920
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3619
02:37:36,790 --> 02:37:34,080
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3620
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3621
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3622
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3623
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3624
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3625
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3626
02:37:56,870 --> 02:37:54,399
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3627
02:37:59,110 --> 02:37:56,880
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3628
02:38:01,349 --> 02:37:59,120
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3629
02:38:03,990 --> 02:38:01,359
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3630
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3631
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[Music]

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02:41:55,520 --> 02:41:54,000
welcome back fade to black i am your

3705
02:41:58,150 --> 02:41:55,530
host jimmy church

3706
02:42:02,469 --> 02:41:58,160
[Music]

3707
02:42:05,030 --> 02:42:02,479
tonight's show is exactly why i do this

3708
02:42:06,710 --> 02:42:05,040
it was a great conversation that was

3709
02:42:09,190 --> 02:42:06,720
just an

3710
02:42:12,870 --> 02:42:09,200
amazing amazing conversation

3711
02:42:15,750 --> 02:42:12,880
and uh as long as

3712
02:42:18,469 --> 02:42:15,760
as we've known each other rudy and i uh

3713
02:42:20,469 --> 02:42:18,479
but we've never talked about this stuff

3714
02:42:23,110 --> 02:42:20,479
and rudy rudy

3715
02:42:24,830 --> 02:42:23,120
rudy dropped a few words tonight that

3716
02:42:27,830 --> 02:42:24,840
opened up my

3717
02:42:31,429 --> 02:42:27,840
eyes pineal

3718
02:42:33,429 --> 02:42:31,439
and greg braden right i was like what is

3719
02:42:35,269 --> 02:42:33,439
going on here

3720
02:42:36,389 --> 02:42:35,279
and uh

3721
02:42:41,349 --> 02:42:36,399
wow

3722
02:42:44,070 --> 02:42:41,359
this happened in real time uh and and

3723
02:42:46,230 --> 02:42:44,080
and i hope that everybody appreciated

3724
02:42:47,990 --> 02:42:46,240
uh the conversation tonight as much as i

3725
02:42:49,910 --> 02:42:48,000
did that was uh that was absolutely

3726
02:42:52,550 --> 02:42:49,920
incredible so many things we left on the

3727
02:42:55,349 --> 02:42:52,560
table but uh i look forward to the next

3728
02:42:57,830 --> 02:42:55,359
time rudy is on with us and and we can

3729
02:42:59,510 --> 02:42:57,840
uh uh stay on one side he wanted to stay

3730
02:43:01,750 --> 02:42:59,520
quantum physics all night and i could

3731
02:43:04,230 --> 02:43:01,760
have done that too as well as you know

3732
02:43:06,710 --> 02:43:04,240
but i wanted to talk a little music too

3733
02:43:08,870 --> 02:43:06,720
and and and get some of that

3734
02:43:11,349 --> 02:43:08,880
uh in for everybody that uh you know

3735
02:43:13,910 --> 02:43:11,359
you're expecting that from rudy so

3736
02:43:17,269 --> 02:43:13,920
uh there you go things got uh

3737
02:43:18,389 --> 02:43:17,279
pretty emotional uh there uh towards the

3738
02:43:21,110 --> 02:43:18,399
end

3739
02:43:23,030 --> 02:43:21,120
and uh i could see it and

3740
02:43:25,190 --> 02:43:23,040
uh wow

3741
02:43:26,070 --> 02:43:25,200
i i didn't i didn't i didn't want to go

3742
02:43:28,150 --> 02:43:26,080
there

3743
02:43:30,870 --> 02:43:28,160
uh but it naturally

3744
02:43:32,309 --> 02:43:30,880
uh went in that direction and

3745
02:43:35,190 --> 02:43:32,319
and there you go

3746
02:43:37,670 --> 02:43:35,200
but uh randy uh uh

3747
02:43:41,030 --> 02:43:37,680
uh it means a lot not only

3748
02:43:42,870 --> 02:43:41,040
to all of us but uh certainly to uh rudy

3749
02:43:44,980 --> 02:43:42,880
so there you go all right

3750
02:43:47,990 --> 02:43:44,990
he dropped greg braden tonight

3751
02:43:51,110 --> 02:43:48,000
[Laughter]

3752
02:43:54,790 --> 02:43:51,120
and uh wow wow

3753
02:43:57,750 --> 02:43:54,800
wow uh that that that incident with the

3754
02:43:59,110 --> 02:43:57,760
the movie species that really happened

3755
02:44:01,830 --> 02:43:59,120
and uh

3756
02:44:02,790 --> 02:44:01,840
and i remember uh this is the crazy

3757
02:44:04,870 --> 02:44:02,800
thing

3758
02:44:06,070 --> 02:44:04,880
i i remember

3759
02:44:08,790 --> 02:44:06,080
all of this

3760
02:44:10,710 --> 02:44:08,800
we started talking about ufos and et

3761
02:44:11,590 --> 02:44:10,720
contact in the studio

3762
02:44:13,349 --> 02:44:11,600
and

3763
02:44:16,070 --> 02:44:13,359
uh i didn't

3764
02:44:19,190 --> 02:44:16,080
uh i don't want to reveal too much about

3765
02:44:21,510 --> 02:44:19,200
you know my research and what i was into

3766
02:44:23,269 --> 02:44:21,520
uh at the time but it just started going

3767
02:44:26,630 --> 02:44:23,279
and didn't stop

3768
02:44:27,510 --> 02:44:26,640
and and back then

3769
02:44:33,349 --> 02:44:27,520
uh

3770
02:44:35,269 --> 02:44:33,359
the second floor of his house i think he

3771
02:44:37,429 --> 02:44:35,279
had like a three four story house and on

3772
02:44:40,230 --> 02:44:37,439
the first floor above the garage

3773
02:44:41,750 --> 02:44:40,240
uh the entire first floor

3774
02:44:45,750 --> 02:44:41,760
was wide open

3775
02:44:47,990 --> 02:44:45,760
so half of this main room was our studio

3776
02:44:50,309 --> 02:44:48,000
and it was pretty big too

3777
02:44:52,710 --> 02:44:50,319
and then but on the other side

3778
02:44:55,830 --> 02:44:52,720
uh were these uh

3779
02:44:58,309 --> 02:44:55,840
shelves of videos uh just hundreds and

3780
02:45:02,150 --> 02:44:58,319
hundreds and hundreds of videos

3781
02:45:05,110 --> 02:45:02,160
and uh and those those one are uh over

3782
02:45:06,230 --> 02:45:05,120
and so i said hey man you have any ufo

3783
02:45:09,670 --> 02:45:06,240
videos

3784
02:45:13,269 --> 02:45:09,680
and he said i do and i said

3785
02:45:15,590 --> 02:45:13,279
uh what should i and he walked up out of

3786
02:45:18,389 --> 02:45:15,600
all of these videos there

3787
02:45:21,110 --> 02:45:18,399
he pulls down species

3788
02:45:22,469 --> 02:45:21,120
and he said you need to check this out

3789
02:45:23,990 --> 02:45:22,479
this is

3790
02:45:27,030 --> 02:45:24,000
this

3791
02:45:29,110 --> 02:45:27,040
and and and i put it down and it was

3792
02:45:31,830 --> 02:45:29,120
sitting there staring at me

3793
02:45:33,429 --> 02:45:31,840
uh we're working we're mixing a record

3794
02:45:34,710 --> 02:45:33,439
or doing something we're working but i

3795
02:45:36,230 --> 02:45:34,720
couldn't wait to get home and put in

3796
02:45:39,190 --> 02:45:36,240
this videotape

3797
02:45:41,269 --> 02:45:39,200
that that he says is the one

3798
02:45:42,950 --> 02:45:41,279
and it was the movie species

3799
02:45:45,110 --> 02:45:42,960
and uh

3800
02:45:45,910 --> 02:45:45,120
wow

3801
02:45:58,870 --> 02:45:45,920
it

3802
02:46:00,230 --> 02:45:58,880
then and he knew

3803
02:46:02,870 --> 02:46:00,240
you know that's why i wanted to bring

3804
02:46:03,830 --> 02:46:02,880
this up tonight he knew

3805
02:46:08,710 --> 02:46:03,840
the

3806
02:46:12,230 --> 02:46:08,720
side of et contact in this movie and and

3807
02:46:14,469 --> 02:46:12,240
how it's presented there uh he knew that

3808
02:46:17,910 --> 02:46:14,479
it was about the naked girls

3809
02:46:20,950 --> 02:46:17,920
uh that was pretty funny so yeah and uh

3810
02:46:22,550 --> 02:46:20,960
but but other than that

3811
02:46:26,070 --> 02:46:22,560
i don't think rudy and i ever talked

3812
02:46:27,030 --> 02:46:26,080
about spirituality or consciousness or

3813
02:46:30,389 --> 02:46:27,040
uh

3814
02:46:31,510 --> 02:46:30,399
you know the the community or ufos or

3815
02:46:34,469 --> 02:46:31,520
e.t

3816
02:46:36,070 --> 02:46:34,479
uh ever ever not until tonight on this

3817
02:46:39,030 --> 02:46:36,080
show and

3818
02:46:40,950 --> 02:46:39,040
that videotape so there you go all right

3819
02:46:43,750 --> 02:46:40,960
i've got a bunch of calls on hold let's

3820
02:46:47,190 --> 02:46:43,760
see who is up first how you're live i'm

3821
02:46:47,200 --> 02:46:50,389
you're live

3822
02:46:50,399 --> 02:46:57,750
me church

3823
02:47:02,469 --> 02:46:59,510
thank goodness

3824
02:47:09,429 --> 02:47:04,790
what's your name

3825
02:47:12,070 --> 02:47:09,439
the bill uh this is the bill

3826
02:47:14,790 --> 02:47:12,080
again yes sir thank goodness for

3827
02:47:16,389 --> 02:47:14,800
motorhead why they opened up

3828
02:47:18,070 --> 02:47:16,399
they opened up

3829
02:47:22,309 --> 02:47:18,080
for ozzie

3830
02:47:24,870 --> 02:47:22,319
on the blizzard of oz tour with your boy

3831
02:47:26,790 --> 02:47:24,880
and it was so freaking loud that people

3832
02:47:28,790 --> 02:47:26,800
left

3833
02:47:31,190 --> 02:47:28,800
and i got up to like the third of the

3834
02:47:34,230 --> 02:47:31,200
fourth row

3835
02:47:36,710 --> 02:47:34,240
and when randy came out

3836
02:47:38,870 --> 02:47:36,720
and as he played on the blizzard of oz

3837
02:47:40,790 --> 02:47:38,880
tour

3838
02:47:43,990 --> 02:47:40,800
i was literally close enough i could

3839
02:47:47,750 --> 02:47:44,000
reach up and touch randy

3840
02:47:51,349 --> 02:47:47,760
yeah i i had the same experience

3841
02:47:52,469 --> 02:47:51,359
i had the exact same experience uh that

3842
02:47:54,150 --> 02:47:52,479
i i

3843
02:47:56,630 --> 02:47:54,160
uh bringing up the circle theater

3844
02:47:58,309 --> 02:47:56,640
tonight and to have uh rudy remember

3845
02:47:59,349 --> 02:47:58,319
that i've never told him i was at that

3846
02:48:01,910 --> 02:47:59,359
show

3847
02:48:03,830 --> 02:48:01,920
and and yeah in the in the front when i

3848
02:48:05,750 --> 02:48:03,840
say i was in the front row

3849
02:48:08,070 --> 02:48:05,760
i was uh

3850
02:48:11,030 --> 02:48:08,080
i could have reached out on the stage

3851
02:48:13,030 --> 02:48:11,040
and touched randy's guitar pedals i was

3852
02:48:14,950 --> 02:48:13,040
that close yeah

3853
02:48:16,950 --> 02:48:14,960
that was so crazy because we were like

3854
02:48:18,150 --> 02:48:16,960
in the ninth row or something

3855
02:48:20,710 --> 02:48:18,160
and

3856
02:48:23,190 --> 02:48:20,720
a motorhead was so loud that a lot of

3857
02:48:24,950 --> 02:48:23,200
people left and we were left you know

3858
02:48:26,630 --> 02:48:24,960
sitting there in the second third row it

3859
02:48:29,190 --> 02:48:26,640
was so cool

3860
02:48:30,790 --> 02:48:29,200
and and rudy was amazing

3861
02:48:32,309 --> 02:48:30,800
randy was

3862
02:48:35,510 --> 02:48:32,319
quite obviously

3863
02:48:37,750 --> 02:48:35,520
you know impossible to

3864
02:48:39,590 --> 02:48:37,760
to even imagine

3865
02:48:41,750 --> 02:48:39,600
it was great it was the most amazing

3866
02:48:43,269 --> 02:48:41,760
show i've ever seen my number one show

3867
02:48:46,950 --> 02:48:43,279
ever

3868
02:48:49,110 --> 02:48:46,960
yeah i i i look at uh the circle theater

3869
02:48:50,309 --> 02:48:49,120
uh show the same the bill

3870
02:48:55,670 --> 02:48:50,319
that

3871
02:48:57,670 --> 02:48:55,680
happened first off def leppard

3872
02:48:59,349 --> 02:48:57,680
you know their first uh their

3873
02:49:00,790 --> 02:48:59,359
introduction to the united states and

3874
02:49:03,030 --> 02:49:00,800
they were kids

3875
02:49:04,950 --> 02:49:03,040
at that time they were like 18

3876
02:49:06,630 --> 02:49:04,960
yeah 18 years old

3877
02:49:09,269 --> 02:49:06,640
and they were great they were amazing

3878
02:49:11,750 --> 02:49:09,279
but there was that part of the show

3879
02:49:13,510 --> 02:49:11,760
but the other part those early aussie

3880
02:49:14,309 --> 02:49:13,520
shows

3881
02:49:16,389 --> 02:49:14,319
um

3882
02:49:20,550 --> 02:49:16,399
ozzy's voice

3883
02:49:22,630 --> 02:49:20,560
his mindset he was he was clear and not

3884
02:49:24,790 --> 02:49:22,640
only with his voice but but his

3885
02:49:28,710 --> 02:49:24,800
performance it was

3886
02:49:31,349 --> 02:49:28,720
it was amazing it was electrifying um

3887
02:49:34,550 --> 02:49:31,359
we hung out the night before the show

3888
02:49:36,389 --> 02:49:34,560
and uh he did a little appearance at a

3889
02:49:38,309 --> 02:49:36,399
little record store

3890
02:49:40,710 --> 02:49:38,319
here in kansas city

3891
02:49:42,230 --> 02:49:40,720
and uh you know we hung out the night

3892
02:49:45,110 --> 02:49:42,240
before

3893
02:49:49,750 --> 02:49:45,120
and the show itself

3894
02:49:51,910 --> 02:49:49,760
i just i i i list it as my number one

3895
02:49:53,750 --> 02:49:51,920
show that i've ever seen ever in my

3896
02:49:56,309 --> 02:49:53,760
entire life yeah and thank you for

3897
02:49:58,230 --> 02:49:56,319
calling in the bill so tonight must have

3898
02:50:00,550 --> 02:49:58,240
been really cool for you man to have

3899
02:50:03,269 --> 02:50:00,560
rudy on with us

3900
02:50:05,429 --> 02:50:03,279
absolutely amazing rudy rudy is my man

3901
02:50:07,990 --> 02:50:05,439
and tommy aldridge and

3902
02:50:09,990 --> 02:50:08,000
the guys were just amazing just amazing

3903
02:50:12,389 --> 02:50:10,000
and great show tonight jimmy thank you

3904
02:50:14,230 --> 02:50:12,399
so much for putting it on yeah thank you

3905
02:50:16,389 --> 02:50:14,240
bill and we'll see you tomorrow night

3906
02:50:19,110 --> 02:50:16,399
it's our eighth anniversary so we'll see

3907
02:50:22,469 --> 02:50:19,120
you tomorrow man thank you so much

3908
02:50:25,750 --> 02:50:22,479
yes sir take care buddy it's time to

3909
02:50:28,630 --> 02:50:25,760
fade to black that was the bill

3910
02:50:30,150 --> 02:50:28,640
thank you bill that's a that's a great

3911
02:50:31,110 --> 02:50:30,160
phone call right there

3912
02:50:33,030 --> 02:50:31,120
i mean

3913
02:50:35,429 --> 02:50:33,040
i uh

3914
02:50:38,389 --> 02:50:35,439
uh i think about

3915
02:50:41,269 --> 02:50:38,399
uh that circle theater show so much

3916
02:50:42,630 --> 02:50:41,279
because and i talked about this uh last

3917
02:50:43,670 --> 02:50:42,640
week or two weeks ago on randy's

3918
02:50:44,870 --> 02:50:43,680
birthday

3919
02:50:47,670 --> 02:50:44,880
um

3920
02:50:50,950 --> 02:50:47,680
that it was it's on the circle in in

3921
02:50:52,630 --> 02:50:50,960
downtown indianapolis i never heard of

3922
02:50:55,110 --> 02:50:52,640
the circle theater

3923
02:50:56,710 --> 02:50:55,120
um but so we get there we get it and

3924
02:50:59,349 --> 02:50:56,720
it's just a tiny

3925
02:51:00,790 --> 02:50:59,359
tiny little theater i i have no idea i

3926
02:51:02,790 --> 02:51:00,800
don't know if there's a balcony i don't

3927
02:51:04,550 --> 02:51:02,800
remember that

3928
02:51:06,790 --> 02:51:04,560
but it was very

3929
02:51:08,150 --> 02:51:06,800
very small and i was excited about that

3930
02:51:11,190 --> 02:51:08,160
i thought

3931
02:51:15,349 --> 02:51:11,200
this is like being in a in a nightclub

3932
02:51:17,510 --> 02:51:15,359
and we've got ozzie right here tonight

3933
02:51:19,030 --> 02:51:17,520
uh it was incredible it was incredible i

3934
02:51:21,830 --> 02:51:19,040
was a

3935
02:51:24,309 --> 02:51:21,840
senior year in high school so i was

3936
02:51:25,349 --> 02:51:24,319
probably uh 16

3937
02:51:29,190 --> 02:51:25,359
yeah

3938
02:51:30,830 --> 02:51:29,200
16 years old there was oh i wanted to

3939
02:51:33,110 --> 02:51:30,840
mention this before i get back to the

3940
02:51:36,550 --> 02:51:33,120
callers um

3941
02:51:38,389 --> 02:51:36,560
so when i arrived in l.a

3942
02:51:40,950 --> 02:51:38,399
uh i go to

3943
02:51:43,030 --> 02:51:40,960
uh the rainbow this is 1984

3944
02:51:44,230 --> 02:51:43,040
and and back then at the rainbow which

3945
02:51:46,710 --> 02:51:44,240
was packed

3946
02:51:48,389 --> 02:51:46,720
every night but you would walk in uh

3947
02:51:51,190 --> 02:51:48,399
there was tables but you would walk in

3948
02:51:52,950 --> 02:51:51,200
this loop all night long just this you

3949
02:51:54,870 --> 02:51:52,960
know and i'm in the loop

3950
02:51:56,870 --> 02:51:54,880
and and sitting at this table's quiet

3951
02:51:59,030 --> 02:51:56,880
riot right there man it's it's it's

3952
02:52:02,389 --> 02:51:59,040
frankie and carlos and

3953
02:52:04,710 --> 02:52:02,399
and rudy and uh kevin

3954
02:52:06,389 --> 02:52:04,720
four of them sitting there by themselves

3955
02:52:08,309 --> 02:52:06,399
laughing and having a good time and i

3956
02:52:09,670 --> 02:52:08,319
went up and i introduced him i

3957
02:52:14,790 --> 02:52:09,680
introduced myself

3958
02:52:18,950 --> 02:52:18,070
their reaction was priceless anyway

3959
02:52:21,750 --> 02:52:18,960
so

3960
02:52:22,710 --> 02:52:21,760
that happened um it was a few years

3961
02:52:27,110 --> 02:52:22,720
later

3962
02:52:29,670 --> 02:52:27,120
i'm gonna go to like 1988

3963
02:52:31,429 --> 02:52:29,680
and paul de armas

3964
02:52:32,870 --> 02:52:31,439
i i did bring this up with uh rudy

3965
02:52:35,670 --> 02:52:32,880
tonight i should have

3966
02:52:38,389 --> 02:52:35,680
uh paul de armas was the haircutter the

3967
02:52:40,309 --> 02:52:38,399
hairstylist of the stars did everybody

3968
02:52:42,790 --> 02:52:40,319
and one of his clients was white snake

3969
02:52:44,630 --> 02:52:42,800
and i knew that and

3970
02:52:46,950 --> 02:52:44,640
and this was

3971
02:52:50,150 --> 02:52:46,960
things were taking off

3972
02:52:52,070 --> 02:52:50,160
the videos tonic contain the the

3973
02:52:54,870 --> 02:52:52,080
the ginormity

3974
02:52:58,950 --> 02:52:54,880
of what white snake was especially at

3975
02:53:00,950 --> 02:52:58,960
that period was crazy and paul and i um

3976
02:53:03,269 --> 02:53:00,960
uh he cuts my hair but we're also best

3977
02:53:05,349 --> 02:53:03,279
friends and and he was managing a band

3978
02:53:06,550 --> 02:53:05,359
that i was mixing and recording at the

3979
02:53:08,790 --> 02:53:06,560
time

3980
02:53:11,750 --> 02:53:08,800
uh called detective a monarch michael

3981
02:53:14,070 --> 02:53:11,760
monarch and we go paul

3982
02:53:16,469 --> 02:53:14,080
gets tickets to go see sam kennison at

3983
02:53:19,190 --> 02:53:16,479
the wilton theater now i'm gonna say

3984
02:53:22,070 --> 02:53:19,200
this is 87.88

3985
02:53:25,110 --> 02:53:22,080
and uh so we get to the well turn and we

3986
02:53:26,550 --> 02:53:25,120
have these vip uh passes and we're

3987
02:53:28,309 --> 02:53:26,560
upstairs

3988
02:53:31,269 --> 02:53:28,319
and uh

3989
02:53:33,110 --> 02:53:31,279
and and paul turns to me and he goes hey

3990
02:53:35,510 --> 02:53:33,120
here's your twin brother

3991
02:53:38,710 --> 02:53:35,520
rudy sarzo i said oh yeah and he's

3992
02:53:40,870 --> 02:53:38,720
standing and he goes yeah come on and uh

3993
02:53:41,670 --> 02:53:40,880
so he brings me up and introduces me to

3994
02:53:43,429 --> 02:53:41,680
him

3995
02:53:46,150 --> 02:53:43,439
and and i was thinking about that

3996
02:53:47,269 --> 02:53:46,160
tonight uh when rudy and that's when we

3997
02:53:49,429 --> 02:53:47,279
first met

3998
02:53:51,510 --> 02:53:49,439
and after that

3999
02:53:54,630 --> 02:53:51,520
uh rudy and i

4000
02:53:55,750 --> 02:53:54,640
just became friends we just for some

4001
02:53:58,870 --> 02:53:55,760
reason

4002
02:53:59,750 --> 02:53:58,880
kept running into each other all the

4003
02:54:01,830 --> 02:53:59,760
time

4004
02:54:02,870 --> 02:54:01,840
uh to the point where it was like man

4005
02:54:06,790 --> 02:54:02,880
let's just

4006
02:54:09,030 --> 02:54:06,800
do this let's do that and

4007
02:54:11,510 --> 02:54:09,040
and and and things just took off but

4008
02:54:13,830 --> 02:54:11,520
that was it was paul de armas

4009
02:54:15,030 --> 02:54:13,840
uh that uh did the formal introduction

4010
02:54:17,590 --> 02:54:15,040
all right

4011
02:54:18,790 --> 02:54:17,600
i forgot all about that till right now i

4012
02:54:20,630 --> 02:54:18,800
should have brought that up with rudy i

4013
02:54:22,230 --> 02:54:20,640
wonder where paul is today

4014
02:54:26,309 --> 02:54:22,240
uh let's go back to the phones hi you're

4015
02:54:29,830 --> 02:54:27,750
you're live

4016
02:54:32,830 --> 02:54:29,840
yes

4017
02:54:34,290 --> 02:54:32,840
the

4018
02:54:35,830 --> 02:54:34,300
background okay

4019
02:54:37,910 --> 02:54:35,840
[Music]

4020
02:54:40,469 --> 02:54:37,920
okay you got to be ready man you got to

4021
02:54:43,030 --> 02:54:40,479
be right yeah i got it okay who's going

4022
02:54:44,950 --> 02:54:43,040
who's calling this is vader learn i was

4023
02:54:47,030 --> 02:54:44,960
just calling you about i sending you the

4024
02:54:49,110 --> 02:54:47,040
pictures on your email

4025
02:54:51,110 --> 02:54:49,120
and i was just wondering if you got them

4026
02:54:53,269 --> 02:54:51,120
oh okay hold on

4027
02:54:56,230 --> 02:54:53,279
hold on that's uh okay that's a whole

4028
02:54:59,030 --> 02:54:56,240
nother computer screen okay

4029
02:55:02,870 --> 02:54:59,040
let me bounce over here

4030
02:55:06,710 --> 02:55:02,880
and uh oh yeah vader lord here it is let

4031
02:55:08,230 --> 02:55:06,720
me see what you have sent me

4032
02:55:13,429 --> 02:55:08,240
it's uh

4033
02:55:17,750 --> 02:55:14,950
oh oh

4034
02:55:21,110 --> 02:55:17,760
i wasn't expecting this

4035
02:55:24,469 --> 02:55:21,120
oh that's that's tasty man

4036
02:55:26,469 --> 02:55:24,479
yeah yeah i do a lot abstract so oh this

4037
02:55:33,349 --> 02:55:26,479
is

4038
02:55:37,670 --> 02:55:33,359
yeah paint yeah

4039
02:55:39,750 --> 02:55:37,680
what is going this is magnificent man

4040
02:55:41,910 --> 02:55:39,760
thank you thank you i got more more

4041
02:55:43,750 --> 02:55:41,920
stuff at my at my art studio in santa

4042
02:55:44,469 --> 02:55:43,760
barbara

4043
02:55:47,269 --> 02:55:44,479
what

4044
02:55:50,150 --> 02:55:47,279
the hey

4045
02:55:52,389 --> 02:55:50,160
that is beautiful okay so um hold on a

4046
02:55:53,670 --> 02:55:52,399
minute here man there's a lot going on

4047
02:55:58,230 --> 02:55:53,680
in this painting

4048
02:56:00,469 --> 02:55:58,240
there's a lot going on yeah okay so uh

4049
02:56:03,910 --> 02:56:00,479
by the way it's beautiful it's it's

4050
02:56:05,990 --> 02:56:03,920
absolutely stunning on every level

4051
02:56:08,309 --> 02:56:06,000
has anybody seen this have you posted

4052
02:56:14,070 --> 02:56:12,230
uh no i i i post some stuff on facebook

4053
02:56:15,269 --> 02:56:14,080
but it's really hard to do nowadays i

4054
02:56:16,710 --> 02:56:15,279
don't know why

4055
02:56:18,389 --> 02:56:16,720
okay well

4056
02:56:19,429 --> 02:56:18,399
i'm just wondering

4057
02:56:23,349 --> 02:56:19,439
uh

4058
02:56:25,429 --> 02:56:23,359
this um and so everybody would know what

4059
02:56:27,269 --> 02:56:25,439
we're talking about but let me get back

4060
02:56:28,710 --> 02:56:27,279
to this uh let me get back to this

4061
02:56:31,030 --> 02:56:28,720
painting here

4062
02:56:33,349 --> 02:56:31,040
um okay uh

4063
02:56:34,870 --> 02:56:33,359
it's it's totally 3d

4064
02:56:36,870 --> 02:56:34,880
it looks

4065
02:56:39,269 --> 02:56:36,880
yeah now i don't want to say any of the

4066
02:56:41,990 --> 02:56:39,279
wrong words okay but it looks a little

4067
02:56:43,910 --> 02:56:42,000
foresty

4068
02:56:46,150 --> 02:56:43,920
okay all right

4069
02:56:49,269 --> 02:56:46,160
i try to deal with a lot colors at the

4070
02:56:51,510 --> 02:56:49,279
same time right okay so now you've got

4071
02:56:53,510 --> 02:56:51,520
to uh so

4072
02:56:54,630 --> 02:56:53,520
the colors are incredible but in the

4073
02:56:56,630 --> 02:56:54,640
middle

4074
02:56:57,469 --> 02:56:56,640
you've got this bright

4075
02:56:59,190 --> 02:56:57,479
uh

4076
02:57:02,550 --> 02:56:59,200
aquamarine

4077
02:57:05,429 --> 02:57:02,560
small uh it's a craft i i see that but

4078
02:57:09,510 --> 02:57:05,439
let's go all the way to the right

4079
02:57:10,630 --> 02:57:09,520
you've got something circular going on

4080
02:57:13,269 --> 02:57:10,640
there

4081
02:57:15,030 --> 02:57:13,279
what am i seeing yeah yeah

4082
02:57:16,950 --> 02:57:15,040
um it's just something i do with

4083
02:57:19,830 --> 02:57:16,960
abstract i don't know exactly how to

4084
02:57:20,790 --> 02:57:19,840
tell you it it just comes naturally

4085
02:57:25,990 --> 02:57:20,800
when it

4086
02:57:28,230 --> 02:57:26,000
a planet or two

4087
02:57:30,469 --> 02:57:28,240
yeah wow that's incredible yeah this is

4088
02:57:32,389 --> 02:57:30,479
amazing yeah

4089
02:57:36,389 --> 02:57:32,399
i mean i don't i get a lot of artwork

4090
02:57:41,670 --> 02:57:38,550
okay i'm telling you right now this is

4091
02:57:43,830 --> 02:57:41,680
badass this is incredible yeah

4092
02:57:45,429 --> 02:57:43,840
it lights up inside but the bulb burnt

4093
02:57:47,830 --> 02:57:45,439
out and i can't figure out how to put a

4094
02:57:50,550 --> 02:57:47,840
new bulb in there

4095
02:57:52,630 --> 02:57:50,560
uh say why so

4096
02:57:54,630 --> 02:57:52,640
i can't well there's a light in there

4097
02:57:57,349 --> 02:57:54,640
that turns on with a switch you know a

4098
02:57:59,750 --> 02:57:57,359
round switch uh-huh and uh

4099
02:58:01,750 --> 02:57:59,760
and so you need a new light bulb

4100
02:58:04,950 --> 02:58:01,760
to put it in there i don't know how to

4101
02:58:06,389 --> 02:58:04,960
and fixate to put a light bulb in there

4102
02:58:11,190 --> 02:58:06,399
okay

4103
02:58:14,710 --> 02:58:11,200
what's going on

4104
02:58:17,510 --> 02:58:14,720
i know i realize that this is abstract

4105
02:58:18,790 --> 02:58:17,520
but in the middle you've got this uh

4106
02:58:21,349 --> 02:58:18,800
i don't know what color you would call

4107
02:58:23,590 --> 02:58:21,359
this aquamarine turquoise

4108
02:58:25,429 --> 02:58:23,600
but you've got the this thing this

4109
02:58:28,150 --> 02:58:25,439
pattern that's going on in the middle

4110
02:58:31,349 --> 02:58:28,160
too as well and i know this is abstract

4111
02:58:33,910 --> 02:58:31,359
but was that intentional

4112
02:58:36,550 --> 02:58:33,920
um yeah because of the lighting i guess

4113
02:58:38,550 --> 02:58:36,560
that adds to it right the the blue

4114
02:58:40,870 --> 02:58:38,560
because i painted over it so i bought

4115
02:58:42,550 --> 02:58:40,880
the this thing and i painted over it

4116
02:58:43,590 --> 02:58:42,560
thinking that it would make it a little

4117
02:58:46,630 --> 02:58:43,600
better

4118
02:58:49,670 --> 02:58:46,640
than what before it was so

4119
02:58:51,670 --> 02:58:49,680
anyway man this is great how long does

4120
02:58:53,030 --> 02:58:51,680
it take you to do something like this it

4121
02:58:58,309 --> 02:58:53,040
looks

4122
02:59:00,230 --> 02:58:58,319
yeah it was it took hours i'm really

4123
02:59:02,630 --> 02:59:00,240
good on glass but at the same time

4124
02:59:03,990 --> 02:59:02,640
that's kind of like glass it's about a

4125
02:59:06,070 --> 02:59:04,000
it's just a

4126
02:59:08,550 --> 02:59:06,080
big huge picture you know it's heavy

4127
02:59:09,910 --> 02:59:08,560
yeah and i have it on my microwave and

4128
02:59:11,990 --> 02:59:09,920
uh

4129
02:59:13,269 --> 02:59:12,000
and i have a lot of other stuff on glass

4130
02:59:14,790 --> 02:59:13,279
but um

4131
02:59:17,349 --> 02:59:14,800
yeah that's the strangest one i've done

4132
02:59:18,250 --> 02:59:17,359
so far since when i was on lockdown for

4133
02:59:20,950 --> 02:59:18,260
the kobe thing

4134
02:59:23,429 --> 02:59:20,960
[Laughter]

4135
02:59:26,790 --> 02:59:23,439
that's when the magic happens man

4136
02:59:29,670 --> 02:59:26,800
this is incredible this is uh you need

4137
02:59:31,670 --> 02:59:29,680
to uh so where can i see more of your

4138
02:59:32,550 --> 02:59:31,680
artwork

4139
02:59:34,950 --> 02:59:32,560
um

4140
02:59:37,030 --> 02:59:34,960
well on off of facebook but i go by a

4141
02:59:39,269 --> 02:59:37,040
different name on facebook

4142
02:59:40,230 --> 02:59:39,279
which is tony schultz

4143
02:59:41,190 --> 02:59:40,240
okay

4144
02:59:42,790 --> 02:59:41,200
s h

4145
02:59:46,230 --> 02:59:42,800
h

4146
02:59:49,349 --> 02:59:46,240
i i i've been doing art pictures you

4147
02:59:52,469 --> 02:59:49,359
know photography and all that for years

4148
02:59:54,710 --> 02:59:52,479
and um i seem to get the right

4149
02:59:56,230 --> 02:59:54,720
the right pictures but i can't i can't

4150
02:59:58,230 --> 02:59:56,240
put them together because they're so

4151
03:00:01,190 --> 02:59:58,240
spread out on facebook

4152
03:00:03,670 --> 03:00:01,200
okay i found you on facebook oh okay

4153
03:00:06,150 --> 03:00:03,680
here we go

4154
03:00:07,830 --> 03:00:06,160
all right so you follow me on facebook

4155
03:00:10,710 --> 03:00:07,840
okay there we go

4156
03:00:13,190 --> 03:00:10,720
yeah yeah okay i'm looking at yours and

4157
03:00:14,710 --> 03:00:13,200
you're good man

4158
03:00:18,150 --> 03:00:14,720
yeah yeah

4159
03:00:22,389 --> 03:00:20,150
wow this is tasty

4160
03:00:24,550 --> 03:00:22,399
so it's not vader

4161
03:00:28,469 --> 03:00:24,560
it's not vader it's tony

4162
03:00:31,190 --> 03:00:28,479
now we know yeah yeah yeah yeah

4163
03:00:33,110 --> 03:00:31,200
this is uh this is good stuff man i'm

4164
03:00:35,590 --> 03:00:33,120
very impressed thank you

4165
03:00:39,349 --> 03:00:35,600
i am very there's stuff that goes back

4166
03:00:41,590 --> 03:00:39,359
since 2008 since i started it

4167
03:00:42,950 --> 03:00:41,600
and that's pretty far

4168
03:00:45,110 --> 03:00:42,960
i mean like

4169
03:00:47,429 --> 03:00:45,120
i i used to experiment for two years

4170
03:00:49,750 --> 03:00:47,439
straight not going anywhere and i would

4171
03:00:51,910 --> 03:00:49,760
stock up on food and just do art and

4172
03:00:54,230 --> 03:00:51,920
pictures and lighting and different

4173
03:00:58,070 --> 03:00:54,240
stuff yeah

4174
03:01:01,830 --> 03:01:00,309
i i i just can't i can't take my eyes

4175
03:01:03,429 --> 03:01:01,840
off your stuff

4176
03:01:07,030 --> 03:01:03,439
and i'm right at the end of the show

4177
03:01:08,870 --> 03:01:07,040
tony this is incredible man

4178
03:01:10,230 --> 03:01:08,880
thank you yeah you've got talent you've

4179
03:01:11,990 --> 03:01:10,240
got talent

4180
03:01:13,590 --> 03:01:12,000
you've got some real talent you've got

4181
03:01:15,190 --> 03:01:13,600
the gift

4182
03:01:17,030 --> 03:01:15,200
that's incredible thank you for sending

4183
03:01:19,269 --> 03:01:17,040
that to me and uh

4184
03:01:22,389 --> 03:01:19,279
you've got my emails so let's uh let's

4185
03:01:25,349 --> 03:01:22,399
talk a little bit more off of the air

4186
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okay all right thank you so much

4187
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and i'll see you tomorrow night i'll see

4188
03:01:32,309 --> 03:01:28,640
you tomorrow night right here man thank

4189
03:01:33,590 --> 03:01:32,319
you so much yep right okay

4190
03:01:36,309 --> 03:01:33,600
thank you tony

4191
03:01:37,269 --> 03:01:36,319
that's that's vader lord from the chat

4192
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room

4193
03:01:43,750 --> 03:01:40,960
and uh tony schultz over on facebook go

4194
03:01:46,070 --> 03:01:43,760
and look at his artwork

4195
03:01:47,670 --> 03:01:46,080
that's uh that's incredible the image

4196
03:01:51,269 --> 03:01:47,680
that he sent to me

4197
03:01:54,630 --> 03:01:51,279
uh was not on his uh facebook page

4198
03:01:56,870 --> 03:01:54,640
so uh only i got to enjoy that that's

4199
03:01:57,830 --> 03:01:56,880
incredible tony you've got the gift my

4200
03:02:01,269 --> 03:01:57,840
man

4201
03:02:04,150 --> 03:02:01,279
that is absolutely stunning this is fade

4202
03:02:05,910 --> 03:02:04,160
to black i am your host jimmy church

4203
03:02:08,250 --> 03:02:05,920
what a great week on the show i want to

4204
03:02:09,830 --> 03:02:08,260
thank rudy sarzo for coming in tonight

4205
03:02:11,510 --> 03:02:09,840
[Music]

4206
03:02:13,190 --> 03:02:11,520
it's always a great night on faded black

4207
03:02:14,870 --> 03:02:13,200
but tonight was extra special for me

4208
03:02:17,110 --> 03:02:14,880
that was an incredible conversation

4209
03:02:18,870 --> 03:02:17,120
thank you so much rudy beta black is

4210
03:02:20,950 --> 03:02:18,880
produced by hill j paul renee dennis and

4211
03:02:23,990 --> 03:02:20,960
kevin announcers are steve harder gene

4212
03:02:26,150 --> 03:02:24,000
vettel mark d kovar webmaster is drew

4213
03:02:29,110 --> 03:02:26,160
the geek music doug aldrich intro

4214
03:02:31,269 --> 03:02:29,120
spaceboy spaceboymusic.com

4215
03:02:32,550 --> 03:02:31,279
fade to black is produced by kjcr for

4216
03:02:34,429 --> 03:02:32,560
the game changer network and this

4217
03:02:36,870 --> 03:02:34,439
broadcast is only copyrighted

4218
03:02:39,269 --> 03:02:36,880
2021 by fade to black and the game

4219
03:02:41,830 --> 03:02:39,279
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4220
03:02:43,910 --> 03:02:41,840
rebroadcast downloaded copied or used

4221
03:02:45,510 --> 03:02:43,920
anywhere in the known universe without

4222
03:02:47,190 --> 03:02:45,520
written permission from fade to block of

4223
03:02:48,790 --> 03:02:47,200
the game changer network

4224
03:02:51,349 --> 03:02:48,800
i'm your host jimmy church tomorrow

4225
03:02:54,469 --> 03:02:51,359
night our eighth anniversary special

4226
03:02:57,190 --> 03:02:54,479
happens to be on a fader night so i'll

4227
03:02:59,910 --> 03:02:57,200
see everybody tomorrow let's celebrate

4228
03:03:01,590 --> 03:02:59,920
together until then i want everybody to

4229
03:03:05,950 --> 03:03:01,600
be safe

4230
03:03:16,870 --> 03:03:05,960
it's time to fade to black

4231
03:03:16,880 --> 03:03:20,230
so